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« الذكرى العاشرة لرحيل موسى قويدرProstitution, in Amman »

سكّان عمّان الشرئيّة .. كلهم نَوَر

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:46:55 PM
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     هاد الكلام اللي بيطلع من بنات العز على اطراف عمّان الغربية، لأ و شو كمان، "مؤريفين" و كتير مبهدلين..

    بس شو بدّي احكي غير "الله يرحم قملو"..

     انا ما بحب اختلق القصص، بس هاد بالضبط الكلام اللي سمعته من بعض الناس "محدثيي النعمة" لوصف بعض مناطق عمّان. على اساس، انه الانسان يمكن اختزاله و الحكم عليه و على اخلاقه بكل بساطة عند النظر الى محل السكن. ناسية او متناسية بنت "الذوات" انهّا ماشاء الله خرّيجة حواري عمّان الشرقية.. و ليست وحيدة في هذه الاصول، بل غالبية سكّان المناطق "الراقية" كانو في الأساس يقطنون عمّان الشرقية

    عمّان .. الحضارة، و العراقة، لا فرق فيها بين شرقية و غربية، افيقوا .. هذه ليست بيروت اخرى!

    المسلّي في الموضوع ان المتلفظة بالكلمات المتخلّفة اعلاه، و اشباه الحشرات المشابهيين لها بالكاد يفكّون الخط مع الأحترام و الأعتزاز و الأعتذار بكّل الأميين الذين ليسو على شاكلتها، من تعصب اعمى و تعميم سخيف، عقيم و غبي!

    قد تمتليء بيوت، و شوارع و حواري عمّان الشرقية بالفقراء، لكن تقل بين اعدادهم من يفرطون في اعراضهم، و من يبيّضون الاموال، و من نخر عظمهم الفساد و المحسوبية و سرقة قوت الشعب!

    و انا لا اتحامل بأي حال من الاحوال على اي من الأغنياء، بل العكس اهنيّء الشريف العفيف المجتهد منهم على ثمرة تعبه. كما اشيد بكل من لي ينسى اصله و فصله.. و من لي ينسى من اين اتى بل و يفخر بأصوله..

    لكن لكل محدثيي النعم من جماعة اللف و الدوران، تمتّعوا لكن لا تتطاولوا، فمهما بلغتم من الغنى، ستبقون افقر من زبّال قنوع، مع الاعتذار للزبال على التشبيه

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    hee zay ma golet, a7san radd elhom "Yr7am gamelko ya m9adyyeen"
    • #2
    • أنونيموس
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    • On: 9/6/2007 12:07:44 AM
    اللي ببطنه عظام بتقرقع
    لأ انونيموس...
    اللي ببطنه عدام بتأرئع..
    3an jad
    "الله يرحم قملو"
    i don't know how these people think!! what a losers, i remember back in uni some girl didn't want to talk to a girl just because she was from Zarqa... pretty shallow if you ask me.. i can't stand these people eh!
    La3nat alah 3ala al shitan.
    this is just coz most of them aren't happy with what they have, they have issues
    ليش كان في اشي اسمه عمان الغربية زمان؟
    هداك اليوم كانت تحكي وحدة عن كيف كانت عبدون شارع ترابي باواخر السبعينات ما فيه غير النادي و اكم بيت
    شارع مكة ما كان موجود كان دبش و حجار و بينتهي عند اشارات الرابية يعني ما كانش يكمل و لاكان في دوار الكيلو ولا غيرو

    اطلع مع اي شوفير تاكسي بيقولك:هاظي كان اسمها ام الظباع كان الدلم(الدونم يعني) بليرتين و ما حدا كان يشتري
    طبعا الحكي عن تلاع العلي و الرابية

    اما اللي بيحكم على شخص انه مؤرف من خلال مكان سكنه بيكون مل ما قلت محدث نعمة و داخلة علية المصاري جديد و مش قادر يستوعب فكرة انه طلع و صار فلازم يدعس على غيره عشان يبين اعلى

    الحق مش على هيك ناس الحق على الحكومة اللي بتلمع بعمان الغربية و بتنسى انه عمان لا تتجزأ..زي الاب اللي بيدرس ولد و بيعمله دكتور و ابنه التاني بيكون عامل بيساعد ابوه مثلا بتعليم اخوه و عند الجد بتلاقي الاب بيتفاخر بابنه الدكتور و بينسى التاني او بيستعر منه
    • #9
    • Isam
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    • On: 9/6/2007 8:06:20 AM
    3amman el shar2eyye rocks ;)
    One cannot feel bad sad for people who have no other attributes than their bank account balance or their address.
    الحق مش عليها، الحق على أبوها اللي فهمها إنها درجة أولى وهدول درجة سابعة البقر
    • #12
    • Moey
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    • On: 9/6/2007 12:06:35 PM
    Kont ra7 akol moos b wejhe bel wa7dat 3ashan an old mobile, shu bte7ki ya man.. inta eb usa mesh jordan you can judge, what the girls said is true.. most of the eastern side is so messed up, that doesnt mean that all of them are, thats just generalizing but you can't say its safer than the western side. and whats wrong with beirut? can you come up with 10% of what it gave.

    Moey,
    20 years ago there was hardly any Western Amman!
    Wi7dat is a refugee camp, and it doesn't represent ALL of eastern Amman, which happens to hold all of the ever diminishing middle class. Most educated people really can't afford to live elsewhere.

    What the girl said can't be farther from the truth. She was born, raised and felt hunger in eastern Amman all her life. And now that her family got in the money laundering business she started bitching at Eastern Amman!

    Beirut for people who don't know is the embodiment of sectarian violence. The disputes between all ethnicities never stopped. They have been raging for well over 40 years, they reached their peak during the civil war. In other words. We should learn from what happened in Beirut and make sure it never happens in Amman. These socially unjust conditions are fueling it

    Read what Mala2e6 said above. Read it carefully, and you will get a lot of value and deep meanings. Especially the part about polishing the western part of Amman

    • #14
    • Moey
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    • On: 9/6/2007 5:51:45 PM
    still you don't live in eastern amman to judge, all of you! I know people who like it and people who suffer from it, and the ones who suffer are more...

    and if you kept calling all bad people refugees from the camps, then who else is not bad?

    I still don't blame the girls, I went to eastern amman for documentary shooting for some magazine (can't say more details because it isn't published yet). trust me, the new generation is good. some of the old generation should be bombed like Hiroshima
    Actually Moey, I do. I live in Eastern Amman and I'm really proud of the people around here.
    The suffering is artificial. It is induced due to the conditions that Eastern Amman is in. Mainly due to GAM neglecting these neighborhoods for decades while polishing western Amman nonstop

    I didn't call bad people refugees. Nor is a refugee camp a location for bad people to assemble. It's a location with really bad living conditions more than anything

    I really don't like your statement about new and old generations there. Who are you to play god and decide that they don't deserve to live!

    Moey, I hate to say this but you sound like you have a lot of prejudice and this keeps surfacing. You think you (or your likes) are superior to people. Let me assure you that you are not! No one is.
    • #16
    • Moey
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    • On: 9/6/2007 10:13:31 PM
    LOL, I told you I was gonna get my face stabbed for a kinky old mobile in we7dat, in the morning! not at night.

    good luck for you and eastern amman, and you don't live there, you visit it you don't live there. some of the old people there are typically I-love-saddam-hussain and you-come-from-kuwait-you-collect-money-from-the-sea type of people, ya zalameh It took me 30 minutes to describe graphic design to someone there, and bel a5er be7keli: 2aah ya3ni rasem!!

    esh bte7ki man, and don't blame the government, people can manage to live well and educate/teach their children manners under any circumstances, alot of people move out of camps, it's not Jordan's fault in the first place.

    enjoy eastern amman, inshalla el coffee there seattle standards?
    Actually moey, many of the people who live in Eastern Amman used to live in the Gulf. But being low income folks they couldn't afford western Amman housing. Or even have been living there fore ever.
    Many of the most well educated people in Jordan actually live in Eastern Amman, in fact the King himself lives in eastern Amman.

    There were people living in Eastern Amman who do graphic design before most of western Amman was even on the map. Don't judge the whole by the few. I'm sure I can I find a janitor in Western Amman who would never understand what Graphic design is. In fact, I can assure you that you might go to one of the rich barons in Abdoun and some might not know what the hell you're talking about.

    As for coffee, let me reassure you, that the quality of the raw coffee we have over here, is 10 folds better than the junk they have at Starbucks. In fact, we give it as gifts to select people that we like. Seriously!

    Finally regarding manners. The worst mannered people I've seen, and I'm not exaggerating were the kids from the most expensive and prestigious schools...
    Moey, i live in eastern amman and i do remember whan dowar al da5eleya kan 3ajal sayarah,in e amman smal time criminals,in west amman is almushkela.
    • #19
    • Moey
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    • On: 9/7/2007 10:52:54 AM
    Well, how come the most rude students at my university are from raghadan?

    anyways, 5alas forget because I don't want to get more into this. but the separation will be there always and everywhere.
    Guys, you dont have to fight each other, both sides of Amman are beautiful. Yes, a lot of people with time have moved from the Eastern side to the most modern Western side. No one can deny that those who are left behind are in general poorer than those who moved. Most only stayed there because they cant afford the living expenses in the west part. I think that I would move back to the Eastern part if I ever had to live in my own house! With the current cost of buying or rent a house in Western Amman, I don't think that I can afford it anyway in the coming few years. I am glad to stay celibate and living with my parents!

    In general poorer people have less education opportunity and less time caring for the well fair of their children, but so is applicable for some of the rich people where they spoil their children where they think themselves Gods walking on this earth!

    Both sides should learn to tolerate each other, a poor man now might not be that poor in 10 years, and a rich man now may loose all his money in a catastrophe. It would be wise to help our own selves and if we can help those poor getting better living conditions. Instead of bashing them, why not lend them a hand and help them?
    عمان الشرقية أو عمان القديمة هي المدينة الأصلية التي حملت التاريخ، و عمان الغربية هي التطور الصاعق الذي أصاب التاريخ فاندثر واكتسى بأي حليٍّ ليكتمل يعيدا عن أساس الحضارة و يكوّن مفاهيم أخرى في أذهان من يعيشون فيها من أصحاب مقولة "النَوَر".. عمان جميلة بما فيها من قديم، القديم هو الذي يحمل الحضارة والأصل أما الحديث الذي أمقته فهو عبارة عن ضجيج سيارات وأدخنة و عوادم و كوارث و حداثة
    فمَن لم يعترف بأصله(التاريخ القديم) فليقل ما يشاء عما يشاء لأنه لن يزيد على أسماعنا شيئا من الأشياء

    والغريب في الموضوع أني أحن إلى عمان "الشرئية" دوما ففيها من التاريخ ما يكفي لنحس بالحياة
    The Observer
    You're right for the most part in what you said. But I noticed that the poorer people tend to focus more on studying since it's thier only chance. And the top ranking students -Jordan wide- are relatively poor.

    والله يا اسماء .. ضاع عبق التاريخ وروح اللأصالة، وراء الركض و السعار المحموم وراء الحداثة حتى نسي الكثيرون او تناسوا اصولهم
    I tend to side with Qwaider here. People living in West Aamman are growing indifferent to those living in other places in Amman and Jordan in general as if it is a different country, and they do look down on them despite the fact that West Amman was almost nonexistent 30 years ago.
    • #24
    • bluelilly
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    • On: 11/18/2007 9:49:23 AM
    what the girl said is true if u like it or not. we know our roots had lived there even jabal eltaj naser ....etc but they left it and whose still there are really different most of them don`t continue thier studying girls leave school and marry ...etc. when you`ll live in jordan you`ll see the difference.  
    Bluelilly!
    NO what the girl said is NOT true. It's crap! It's prejudice and it's racist.
    There are many people who live in Eastern Amman who are more educated and well behaved than most of the western Amman..
    Many are continuing their education nowadays. Many girls are graduating and not getting married for the first suitor. Something that is NOT LIMITED TO eastern Amman
    • #26
    • Therwah
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    • On: 5/19/2009 12:29:26 AM
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    Alright alright guys ....
    To be honest , I think this discussion will get us nowhere , we are talking about East and west side of our capital as if someone draw a line to seperate us , before talking as racists lets remember that whoever live in West side of Amman MUST have either relatives , friends or even buisness in East side of Amman and vise virsa , SOOOO , I see no point to judge each other based on where u live especialy that Internet , Satelite TV channels is available to everyone in both sides , so they can learn ,educate and  imitate nice models  .

    Also , there is a lot of places that we are not too sure if it belongs to East or west side , for example , Sport city , Shafaa badran , Marj el Hammam , Tabarbour .....etc
    If u look at the map of Amman u will notice that where the hell is NORTH Amman and South Amman from all this ???
    • #27
    • iyad aljammal
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    • On: 6/16/2009 7:22:57 PM
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    قال رسول الله صلى الله علية وسلم

    ان اكرمكم عن الله اتقاكم
    لا فرق بين عربين او اعجمي الا باتقوى
    • #28
    • Nasser Oric'
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    • On: 11/19/2010 4:48:28 PM
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    bekafi enhom nas lesa m7afthen 3ala karemthom o sharfhom...unlike 6an6aat 3abdoon o hamlaat el 9wefeyeh if thats the case...BUT its not where you live its what you are thats why i say "bedoon ta3meem" 3al jehataen...to me people who say such crap are nothing but mentally sick, psychologically twisted pieces of shit people who sold their values and traditions in order to look modernized by imitating the only thing they can imitate from foreign cultures and societies because its the easiest to imitate which are the Moral and ethical degeneration images...mother fuckers with no identity.
    3ala fekra b7ke engleze 3shan yfhamo 3ali..bte3rafo..."sa2afethom" engleze :)...ya5iiii ma azkako.
       
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