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« I'm more Jordanian than you, traitor!Girls and guys, one more time! »

On Queen Alia International Airport again

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Monday, August 13, 2007 8:56:02 PM
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    I'm really shocked by so many of the responses I'm seeing on this matter. From both sides of the isle. On one side, people are bashing Jordan and Jordanians beyond hell. On the other, Jordanians are being so juvenile and uncivilized in the way they treat the whole matter. Some are in scattered in the middle but those are really a minority.

    It's sad to see some of the so called "Awesome" and "great" writers just fall in with the rest of the "defend Jordan" at all costs Gang. If anything, people claiming to talk about Human rights, and Freedom of speech should be ashamed of their positions on what appears to be a very basic violation of human rights.

    I'm not going to jump and say these people are exhibiting hypocritical positions. I just feel that some might have been outraged by the attack and forgot that we might have erred in the process. Many would probably reconsider their position

    And PS, I AM PROUD TO BE JORDANIAN!! Yes, we might have made a mistake, but that doesn't mean we can't fix it and make it better

    +Silly Bahraini Girl
    +Bakkouz
    +Batir

    kulona

    It's just so convenient for people to say, "If you don't like it, get the hell out". Hmm let me see, is that directed to every single person who ever roamed the land of Jordan? Including the Caucasians, Chechnyans, Palestinians, Iraqi's, Kurds, Lebanese, Syrians ...etc ..etc ...etc who currently call Jordan home?

    It's just a trivial answer (not a silly answer, there's a difference) A trivial answer is an answer for no significance. If you don't like something. Complain, Make it better. That's how I view it. But getting "the hell out" is the "shut up and don't complain it's my country" ... well excuse me, that shouldn't be the situation. We should tolerate one another, and coexist with each other. See the negatives and improve them.

    That's where I stand. I'm saying, what happened is sad, and I call for a fact finding committee to conduct a full and open investigation. (And I assure you, my sources tell me that it will happen). We should probably apologize for it, and make it better. Make sure it's not going to happen again.

    The reason I am saying this is that we as a small country can't really afford to be the target of more hatred. We don't want to end up like the US and it's war on Terror. We can't really AFFORD IT!

    My hat goes off the wonderful people in uniform and their sacrifice to keep our home safe. But despite their most sincere attempts we have to understand that the sheer numbers of Iraqis living in Jordan add to that sympathizers, add to those people with true ill intent and you have a formidable front to keep an eye on. It's our civic duty as Jordanians to help as much as we can diffuse this situation by ensuring that our institutions are at the highest level of integrity and transparency.

    I've said before, we're not the only people who tightened our security measures. We're not the only country who's practicing extreme caution when dealing with influx of refugees or anything. It's happening everywhere. From the good US of A to just about everywhere in the world.

    The classical answer of, "What have you done, to solve the Iraqi problem" is a red Herring, it's there simply an attempt to obfuscate the issue. It's not about what Bahrain has done or didn't do. It's about what WE HAVE DONE! And what we need to fix! Someone else calling us on our misbehavior is really not to blame for OUR OWN MISTAKE

    Another extremely outrageous argument is the "Do you expect to be received on a Red carpet or with Rose petals?" and the obvious answer to that is NO, we don't expect to do that to Iraqis, what they're asking for is simply to maintain their dignity. And to be treated like human beings. Nothing more, nothing less!

    Take the example of the late King Hussein of Jordan. Post black September, he didn't proceed in committing genocide or commit atrocities against the Palestinian population (like many others have). To the contrary, he readmitted them into the society and gave them more civic rights and what is the result? The majority have accepted the new situation and become way better citizens. They continued with their lives and simply assimilated in the fabric of the Jordanian society

    There you have it! I'm a Jordanian, and I apologize for the Iraqi people for what happened. I hope I represent a segment of the society that has it's value and not only represent my self.

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    Good post.
    First of all, We for sure miss the wisdom of king hussein God bless his soul and the souls of every good human being.

    Jordan is about diversity, Jordan is about openness, Jordan was and still is the breathing space for many people who were forced to leave their homes, we want jordan to stay like this, we want jordan to become the Hub of the Middle east. The only advantage we have over all the countries in the region is security, and because of this security people look at jordan as the safe haven where they can sleep at night not worrying that tomorrow they or  their children might be killed by a fanatic!We don't want to see jordan like this, not only for the sake of jordanians but also for the sake of the people who chose jordan to be their new home.

    Jordanians are good people just like the majority of iraqies, we get mad when someone calls us names, we get mad when our name is stuck to a person, we are not a person we are a nation of six million people and we are still growing both organically and non-organically.

    Why do Iraqi media and Iraqi bloggers tend to cover only bad stories about jordan? Why don't we cover what makes us closer? Why don't we cover the thousands of good stories? Do Arabs still look at jordan like a buffer zone? Do they think that we don't deserve to be a country? Why is that?

    And for people who think they are the saviors of humanity, either do something or else spare us your crap, because life is already full of crap, and remember that Emotions will get us no where, emotions are whats behind Honor crimes, emotions caused us to loose the west bank and emotions killed millions!
    some people just don't get it...  This is not about Jordanians, its about individuals... its about authorities... no one should turn this into Iraqis against Jordanians...  There is a huge difference..
    I have regularly said that while I don't like the treatment of Iraqi refugees by the security apparatus in your country that I appreciate the fact that at least Jordan opened its doors to Iraqis that will otherwise be killed.  And I applauded the fact that Iraqi children will be able to attend school in Jordan.  But most people focus on the negative because they want change to occur. The situation that the refugees find themselves in is one that needs to change sooner than later so that they do not find themselves in the same situation that Palestinians have been in since 1948--that's why I focus on all the wrong so that the wrongs get undone and the Iraqi people don't end up in the same boat as we (Palestinians are in).  I admit that I have been careless in my attacks against Jordanian bloggers that I know very little about but it's human nature to respond to inhumanity with more inhumanity and I won't apologize for my insults towards the [Edited by Qwaider: Insulting my king is insulting me. Jordan is a country on institutions. You have every right to critisize those]) because I resent his collusion with the Israelis and the corrupt Palestinian leadership in the rape of Palestinian land.  Not only that but let us not forget that it was King Abdullah of the Transjordan that colluded with Ben Gurion when Israel was created in order to divide up Palestinian land between themselves.  Maybe you didn't know that, but, hey it's the truth.  They both pretended that they didn't "accept" what the "other" was doing but they were both plotting TOGETHER to steal Palestinian land.  So please, don't expect me to respect Jordanian "leadership" past or present.
    Oh and I don't have beef with Jordanians.  Just with the "king" and with bloggers who care about prostrating themselves to the "king" than they care about their own Arab brothers and sisters.
    by far, this is the best Jordanian post that addressed the issue, proud of your own country, and not weak to defend it even when it did something wrong. I thank you for your apology, and you have my sincerest respect.  
    CSS, wedging a history lesson there is not going to make your point clearer. Can we stick to this specific matter, and let the other historical accounts for a later discussion?
    Konfused Kid, Thank you very much. But I'm not sure I deserve that. There are many people who are in the same boat. I'm sure you mean them.
    But I really appreciate the good word. Thank you
    I can't help it.  If I don't descramble everything all at once then my brain gets jumbled and I implode.
    You are right Q, I suppose i did over react and perhaps sounded prejudice, that was not my intention, i just got caught up in the moment i guess. my sense of belonging and nationality overtook me. i never meant to insult the iraqis or iraq itself.

    moderation is always a good thing and a solution needs to be implemented before things get out of hand, i'm not a political person by nature nor am i an economist so i don't really know what the solution is, i just know that there needs to be one, for things are not looking promising as far as the situation goes, neither economically nor socially. who knows what the future will bring, i just hope its for the best.
    Bakkouz, as always, you have my utmost respect. I was upset too. Then I noticed that I really need to upset because this is happening on our watch. As we say in our slang "Kbeer"
    CSS,
    Now you are insulting the jordnaian army, and you are laughing about it!

    Well this is just a link to the names of jordanians soldiers who died fighting in the 1948 war:

    http://www.pnic.gov.ps/arabic/shohada/shohada_jordan.asp

    By insulting the army you are insulting all jordan, each and every jordanian has a brother, friend, father or even sister and mother in the army, those people are us and we are them, this ignorance and arrogance is beyond what is acceptable!
    Amazing!
    blah, blah, blah.
    I,am jordanian and i apologize two.
    let me start by, i love Iraq, i Cheered for those guys in Asian cup!

    but allow me to ask you this,
    when people write " Shame on you Jordan" , how do you think we should react to this?

    FFS!!! EVEN WHEN I WRITE THOSE WORDS IT MAKES ME MAD!!

    they can talk about the officer who is behind that act as much as they want, but not about MY COUNTRY!
    cause by far, all had seen until now by JORDAN, is simply beyond anyone imagination!!!

    the least thing you can do when others bash your country, is to write back showing why your consider your country number 1 in the world!
    Thanks Maher, I do appreciate your response. And trust me, we all love our country. But in the absence of an official response to the allegation (there will be one soon, don't worry) the issue will be open for speculation. And people start feeling that such acts are condoned by the Jordanian government, society and the whole country.
    When in fact, there are many who frown at these incidents. And feel upset that they are happening. The other things like Iraqi's issues in Jordan, are NOT the problem here. The humanitarian situation is the one that we screwed and we should fix it.

    We, the people, need to stop taking everything as it comes down to us. For many years people were upset about the customs and no one dared to complain. Only until the visit of the King to the airport, that situation was rectified.

    Mind you, the Airport administration has been on probation for a number of issues and the King himself addressed them recently asking them to either shape up or suffer the consequences. I guess this is one of the areas they need to work on.
    • #16
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/14/2007 8:33:39 AM
    apologize for what?
    Apologize or our misbehavior. For our mistake, for the fact that we're ill treating some people.
    Perv? Is that how your mother calls you at home?
    • #18
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/14/2007 9:04:37 AM

    no need to apologize, if iraqis were in our position they'd have done the same.
    When Iraqi's were in our position, they opened their land to our students to study FOR FREE in their universities.

    They also gave us Oil for FREE for many many years. So, they have given Jordan a lot.

    There really shouldn't be a price for a humanitarian position that they take. And if we make a mistake we need to be accountable and FIX it

    Did you even read the post before throwing that comment? Bsharafak!
    • #20
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/14/2007 9:25:46 AM
    we do not have oil to give, but iraqis get in jordanian govermental schools for free. its been discussed.

    and we didnt do a mistake.
    • #21
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/14/2007 9:27:31 AM
    and I read the post, I don't like the last part
    Regarding allowing Iraqi students to attend schools in Jordan. I applaud such an act, it's the right thing to do. Don't ruin it with your bigoted position.

    We have mistreated some people, It's time to be responsible about it and correct what's wrong. And I assure you, an investigation is well on it's way. And you will hear the details in the news. It just takes a Royal decree for people like you to stop their prejudice and bigotry
    Fine, don't like it. Object to it.. in a civilized way. (notice I didn't call you anything in this comment because you didn't say anything offensive in yours)
    Pavlov would tell you that this is the base of conditional reflux.  In this case, reward and punishment
    Qwaider, the thing that calls itself Moey is on the record as hating Iraqis.  He said so aloud at a function attended by Jordanian and Iraqi bloggers--and he said so in front of Iraqi bloggers.

    He says he hates Iraqis because of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.

    So now he is judging all Iraqis by the actions of a dictator/madman.

    He's a bigot.
    I used to live in Kuwait too, and had to leave the only home I knew because of Saddam. I might hate the person, but not the people of Iraq.

    As for Moey,well, I hope he can understand the difference between the people and Saddam! Saddam-IS NOT-Iraq .. I hated Saddam. I blame him for everything!
    Moey is [-----]! He is a little kuwaiti [-----]! He enjoyed getting [-----] by kuwaiti [----]

    Qwaider Notice: This comment was edited, I will not allow any personal attacks on anyone. If you have something to say, say it. But this kind of talk is not appreciated or welcome
    I hate saddam, but no one can ignore the fact that saddam was considered a hero by many jordanians and palestenians who up to now still love him, so maybe thats why there is too much tension between the two people, also saddam bought a lot of power in jordan, he opened iraqi universities for jordanians, he gave jordan free oil, but the main reason people "adore" him is because he attacked israel..

    No one can control people's emotions toward a person, and killing saddam lovers is out of the equasion for jordan. And Most iraqies will not forgive jordanians for loving saddam, just like many jordanians will not forgive iraies for hanging saddam.

    I think those reason are the main ones behind this tension, and until both people can adress this issue logicaly the tensions will grow more and more.
    Moey why dont you do the burgers,pizza,and mocha freeze, you are good at it.
    • #30
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/15/2007 9:26:21 AM
    Arabiyat, Thank you.
    "no one can ignore the fact that saddam was considered a hero by many jordanians and palestenians who up to now still love him"

    Moey lovers, haters and what so ever, thanks!
    • #31
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/15/2007 9:28:13 AM
    and Moey Lover: I'd love to be Kuwaiti, at least I'm LOYAL to something.
    Hate Saddam, love saddam ... WHO CARES? Is he the one committing these atrocities in the airport? NO!
    Then how about we stick to one subject and focus on it! For all I care Saddam can rot in hell!
    • #33
    • Poor Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/15/2007 6:35:03 PM
    You guys should leave Moey alone.  Clearly he is just angry because he cannot shove cheeseburgers into his gullet at a faster pace.
    • #34
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/16/2007 6:58:38 AM
    LOL, I don't eat burgers
    Moey and his "schoolboy responses"
    [Global Voices...]Moey picks up from where Black Iris left off and provides a classic and time tested schoolboy response to a disagreement “If you don’t like it, LEAVE!”. He sends this message to those sympathising with the treatment of the Iraqis in Jordan[...]

    Congratulations Moey, you've been internationally recognized for being Nas's poodle. You have brought shame to your whole nation with your racism and bigotry. Well done
    You too can have your Memories Documented

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