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Memories....
Do you have a link to the story that you refer to as the "most recent" example? I haven't read anything about it apparently.
Some lunatic claimed that the neural tissues in the heart had the capacity to have emotions. And Zaghlool jumped and said that it's mentioned in the Quran!
Just Remember Mohanned during undergrad .. who got to study Shariah? The guy who got 50% in Tawjihi .. and now he is telling us how to live our life!
By the way, Zaghlool's has a degree in Geology and NOT medicine, biology or anything remotely related to cardiology
Someone really need to tell these people to stop!
But a small remark, there are different types of inelegance, and our beloved Tawjihi system is no scale for intelligence and talent, so judging the " shiekh" of stupidity is unjust, besides we are talking about " 3olama2" the shari3a and some of these guys are pretty bright.
Besides we should be above demeaning people, we can talk as much as we like about particular opinions but not their person : )
When someone insults my religion ... and especially after being reprimanded repeatedly by almost EVERYONE yet he still insists on these absurdities ... he deserves it ... and way worse
I love the fact that he uses the scientific as a base to start from.
oh well the sad truth is as a population we are gullable !
which means take what the people show, he says he is doing it for Islam, I accept that from him, he is going about it the wrong way, but I don't go into "nawaya" this is not a call for being gullible, but not to be judgmental .
To back my words, here's why I think the guy came up with this ridiculous theory of the heart and feelings:
"أَفَلَمْ يَسِيرُوا فِي الأَرْضِ فَتَكُونَ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ يَعْقِلُونَ بِهَا أَوْ آذَانٌ يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا فَإِنَّهَا لا تَعْمَى الأَبْصَارُ وَلَكِنْ تَعْمَى الْقُلُوبُ الَّتِي فِي الصُّدُورِ "
الحج -46
Now, when you're a "scientist" imam living in the twenty first century and read such a sentence, you have three options, either to give up your faith, to ignore it, or try to come up with some weird theory to justify it. Zaghlool simply chose the third option.
besara7a i dont know exactly what this guy said (i just watch CSI!), wish i had a link or something, but no matter what, if his intentions are good, and he was wrong, he got one credit, if he is right, he got two...
finally: "وَمَا مِن دَآبَّةٍ فِي الأَرْضِ وَلاَ طَائِرٍ يَطِيرُ بِجَنَاحَيْهِ إِلاَّ أُمَمٌ أَمْثَالُكُم مَّا فَرَّطْنَا فِي الكِتَابِ مِن شَيْءٍ ثُمَّ إِلَى رَبِّهِمْ يُحْشَرُونَ " so can we at least try to grasp something out of it?
Ok, I agree. I don't want to be too harsh on the man. But someone really needs to help him see the harm he's doing
Baldy
Yep, that's it. They really need to stop
OmAr
Yes, I think I agree with you. But a 5 grader would understand that this is meant metaphorically!
I would go with option 4, Why don't people accept "Blind hearts" and consider "in the chest" as not part of the metaphor? Does hearts have Eyes?!
Mariam
He gets NO credit fo harmin the image of Islam like that. More like a curse
Mohannad
If you cross low IQ with fanatics ... you get a volatile concoction.... I think all the problems we're in right now is due to that
Personally, I think Shariah should ONLY be open as a Post Doctoral field of study. After someone achieves a PhD, then they are allowed to go into Shariah ... Not the other way around
it's all interpretations it might be right or wrong at the end we try to understand and learn ...
no body is perfect
It's not About perfection, and it's NOT about him making a mistake. It's about a trend that he's been following. Time after time after time. In almost ALL his work!
He's making amazingly obvious and clear mistakes. And so much more harm than good.
if u have to disagree with him that doesnt give any one the right to curse him that way in a public that way..!
I know you mean well but this is not the way... Cut the guy some slack... Everyone makes a mistake every now and then... Sometimes Quranic verses are distorted to give a certain scientific meaning... at other times I find the evidence overwhelming... Anyway, this guy had his good moments and bad ones... calling a man a moron is not the way to resolve this issue...
Instead of cursing him, you can talk to him... give him an advice or something... his official website is http://www.elnaggarzr.com/
We ALL need to be VERY careful when we talk about Quran and Scientific advances. And I fear that is not the case with him. Sorry, but I don't trust him, nor do I believe ANYTHING he says. Because he sort of collaberates everything with circumstantial evidence. Very weak and would ruin way more than it fixes
Who needs to stop him? If I was Shaikh al Azhar, I would tell him to stop.
With what he's doing he opened the doors wide open to the other evil doers who keep on "faking" scientific evidence after getting hints from Quran. It's just sad and insulting to me as a Muslim. Who do I blame? Najjar, and his likes!
If you're talking about the "in the chest" part then I guess you're also only talking about retarded 5 graders, because not in a million years the "hearts in the chests" would suggest anything other than literally "the hearts in the chests"!
here's what al Tabari says in his interpretation of Quran, of course by default, Al Tabari must be a scientist in the Arabic language and its metaphores:
وَقَوْله : { فَإِنَّهَا لَا تَعْمَى الْأَبْصَار } يَقُول : فَإِنَّهَا لَا تَعْمَى أَبْصَارهمْ أَنْ يُبْصِرُوا بِهَا الْأَشْخَاص وَيَرَوْهَا , بَلْ يُبْصِرُونَ ذَلِكَ بِأَبْصَارِهِمْ ; وَلَكِنْ تَعْمَى قُلُوبهمْ الَّتِي فِي صُدُورهمْ عَنْ أَنْصَار الْحَقّ وَمَعْرِفَته . وَالْهَاء فِي قَوْله : { فَإِنَّهَا لَا تَعْمَى } هَاء عِمَاد , كَقَوْلِ الْقَائِل : إِنَّهُ عَبْد اللَّه قَائِم . وَقَدْ ذُكِرَ أَنَّ ذَلِكَ فِي قِرَاءَة عَبْد اللَّه : " فَإِنَّهُ لَا تَعْمَى الْأَبْصَار " . وَقِيلَ : { وَلَكِنْ تَعْمَى الْقُلُوب الَّتِي فِي الصُّدُور } وَالْقُلُوب لَا تَكُون إِلَّا فِي الصُّدُور , تَوْكِيدًا لِلْكَلَامِ , كَمَا قِيلَ : { يَقُولُونَ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ مَا لَيْسَ فِي قُلُوبهمْ } . 3 167
But what can I say? give me a sentence like "the sky's blue", and with little work I can come with an interpretation to it which proves that you actually meant that the sky's red.
There are two different things in the science of Quran, Tafseer and Ta2weel (تقسير و تأويل)
Tafseer, is the meaning of verses, and these don't change with time ever. Like for example establishing prayers as Fard (or mandatory)
However, Ta2weel (interpretation) is literally open for interpretations. It takes into account so many things like the conditions relating to the verse. And this can be reinterpreted over and over and over .. as people become more aware
Arabs in poetry (of the time of the Quran and even today) have been known to use metaphors. In fact, there are 4 kinds of metaphors in the Arabic language, each one with greater level of metaphorical resemblance between the two objects of a metaphor.
I don't want to go into the particularities of that verse, but I personally would understand it as Chest as in the internal of their existence. Not relating it literal chests. It's a very strong "Kinayeh"
In the English language there is no equivalent. You picked two terms (Sky) and (Blue) but if you took two values instead like (love) and (vision) you would see the metaphor. "Love is blind" does this mean that love has eyes? Does this mean that blind people are always in Love? Does this mean that a person who can see can't love? This is where you get interpretations
Heart in Arabic, has a million meanings. Including (insight)
Chest also has a million meanings, including (conscious)
Read the verse again, and switch heart with Insight and chest with conscious.. .and you will see my point
Bilal,
I'm surprised to hear how you associated Leftist with neo-conservativs... I see those as two competing forces if anything.
The battle for the middle is ever growing, and the gap is widening so deeply.
But I guess talking about the political aspect of it is a little bit too big to just include in a comment
We are not talking about mercenaries who will end up in bed with whoever pays more. We're talking about people with true ideals and who stick to them
Yes, they have been kind of neutered by the fall of the USSR, but ...
We really need to distinguish between leftists and anti-religious .. one is political and the other is religious, two different planes of existence if you ask me
Leftists and nationalists ARE fighting in Palestine, and still do...
Anyway, many have sort of 'Wise' up and moved from extreme left, to short dishdasheh, long beird and Miswak!
The rules of the game have changed, and yesterday's enemies are today's intimate best friends. How is this happening ... needs additional and deeper study of the new dynamics...
What remains to be seen is ... financial support of the giants in the Arab world to these efforts. Similar to what the Jewish lobby does. It doesn't matter what your political views are as long as you pay your dues to the lobby!
One thing is certain, we're light-years away from realizing true democracy, coexistence and honoring the freedoms
Like in the Arab world, the future is with muslim americana, like CAIR.
so as you see my friend, in the arab world or in the US, the nationalists have screwed up beyond redemption. in the US, most of those who filled the ranks of groups like ADC and AAI were the scum who run the arab regimes or us party activts more interested in jobs in the american political machine than in serving arab causes.
from sons and daughters of royalties to relatives of despots to arab tycoons, the sort who make headlines with their labor exploitations. Just a rotten group of people. Why do you thing CAIR thrived in record time? the corruption here was mirrored there. the nepotism, cronyism, collaboration, you name it. it was the hallmark of groups like ADC and AAI. this is not a pessimistic picture, this is how things are today in the US.
But that should be with whole respect for the other point of view & for the person himself, specially if that person has PhD & lots of studies/researches on his field.
Zaghloul is well known in USA & by non arab ppl, cos he has attracted & satisfied them with realistic and logical approved facts!
You may be against Zaghloul’s thoughts, but that doesn’t give you the right to insult the man himself. You can write freely about your feelings toward him, but with full respect to others, in order to deliver your message
He's more WRONG than right on almost EVERYTHING he says! So stop defending him as he doesn't bring you the ultimate truth of facts. He brings speculations and circumstantial thoughts and ruins our Quran and religion with it
For someone like that, I have NO RESPECT he Should be made to stop!
There are things that are open for opinions, that don't affect other people (like, personal take on drinking coffee)for example. But what Najjar does goes beyond that. It goes into the "Islamic view on these matters" therefore it affects ME, it humiliates ME, or insults ME in front of others...
Which means, it's not longer PERSONAL. I didn't ask him to represent me, but that's exactly what he's doing
حسبى الله ونعم الوكيل
yeah sure we should take a firm situation,BUT against those who insult islam & our prophet ,not against someone who is trying his best to discover the nonstop miracles of quran ....& GUESS WHAT quran is not just a book for religon it's a book for life u'll find biology physics & even chemistery , if u don't believe that , u should doubt ur faith
اللهم صلى وسلم وبارك على سيدنا وملانا محمد وعلى اله واصحابه اجمعين
Lets leave the Quran out of this arena. Lets preserve the dignity of Islam instead of allowing everyone to just say what ever they want and then, say.. see, god said that in the Quran!
The hearts don't UNDERSTAND anything! They are muscles, and have no thought capabilities! Lets stop making the whole universe laugh at our stupidity!