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Stick to what you know, PLEASE!

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Monday, April 23, 2007 10:26:09 PM
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    I'm really saddened and disappointed by the way some people write! A few have an AMAZING talent to write in one language or another. Yet some insist on making posts in languages that are alien to them. Losing the meaning, idea and the reader in the process. I just can't help but think, why? Why do the wrong thing when you're fluent or even FANTASTIC in the other?!

    I'm sorry to say this but this is my way of giving feedback without mentioning names or blogs or anything

    Many people are talented enough to write. Some are talented to write in one specific language but not the other. I would understand if they chose to write exclusively in one, and maybe making some posts every now and then with the other language. But insisting on writing in a very poor style, not worthy of a 7th grader really makes me sad

    I don't know how not to make this sound like a harsh criticism but, I don't want it to be criticism, to the contrary, I want it to be feedback, something that helps.

    If you're fluent in Arabic, go ahead, write in Arabic, you don't even need to write in Classical Arabic (Fus7a). And if you're fluent in English or can only type in English, then go ahead and write in English, unlock everything in your soul and allow your talent to fly!

    But if you're fluent in Arabic and inadequate in English, DON'T insist on writing in English! It's painful to read sometimes, and many are tempted to correct EVERY WORD, and EVERY Sentence, and every paragraph!

    Many people think in Arabic and write in English, we get it because we also think in Arabic, or might have at a certain point in time. But many, especially native English speakers get extremely confused with what they're reading. It doesn't make any sense to them!

    My advice, and I hope it's taken as an advice and not criticism, stick to what you know. If you're trying to learn something new, consult someone with better command in the language to revise and correct what you're typing so that you get to learn as you continue to do it.

    Just DON'T force yourself to write in a language that you really can't write with!

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    Memories....

    True Qwaider. But what if a person is not good in both languages, what's he/she to do?

    I'm asking this because I'm sure that there are people out there who don't have a good command of either languages, but they still want to blog and express their feelings and thoughts.

    Any ideas on what they can do? Qwaider? Guys?
    I think that language and quality shouldn't be an issue, if you are good enough to get your point to the reader then I think everyone should be OK with that, it is not like a Scientific journal...
    I think, if someone wants to engage in an activity, they need to understand and learn the rules, do the diligence to actually be able to present their ideas in a meaningful manner.
    Maybe an Audio post is what is needed? Or possibly a video blog. Maybe that's going to help
    The least we can do is do some sort of peer review. A friend, a teacher, can act as your editor/publisher. You can email the article to them, and they would help by (correcting/editing) it and this way, you will know where you made mistakes and possibly not do them again
    There's also the possibility of taking some courses, read a book about improving writing style ..etc. There are many ways. The least would be to ask the audience for their assistance, if they tell you something doesn't make sense, revise it
    • #4
    • أنونيموس
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    • On: 4/24/2007 1:16:59 AM
    I hear you! I think it's not only a written problem per say, but a verbal one as well. I'm equally fluent in both languages, but I was brought up to speak only Arabic at home. Some family and family friends insist on putting a word or sentence of English in every Arabic sentence they say when they talk to us, even though we are both native Arabic speakers. Needless to say, the accent, grammar, etc make them sound silly rather than intelligently bilingual [which is their point behind this i'm guessing?]. Writing in Arabic is much harder, so if you're better at it, be proud and use it!
    I ignore people like that , man it's torture to read them. TORTURE.

    Whosane: People who don't know either should be removed from Qwaider planet ..lol..I give the "show them no mercy" vote.

    But seriously people, 3anjad don't read their blogs if you don't like them, it is a diary of sorts and khaleehom yifadfido.

    So lets boycott them ad maybe they will die out he he he
    Now now .. 7aki fadi ... don't be too harsh, we need to help them. Maybe they will shine in one language but not as good in another. That's the whole idea.
    انونيموس..
    والله يا رفيق انو كلامك مزبوط...
    انا بتعذب و انا بكتب عربي.. لا عندي كيبورج و لا يحزنون، و بعتمد عالتجربة و الخطأ
    و مع هيك بحاول..
    فكيف عاد اللي بيكتبوا روعة بالعربي و بالأنجليزي مش كل هالقد؟؟
    والله نيّالهم
    • #8
    • Tarzan
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    • On: 4/24/2007 7:02:18 AM
    me no ok you say?...not write in you english read....bad you not write.
    • #9
    • أنونيموس
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    • On: 4/24/2007 8:06:28 AM
    Why the satire ?!
    • #10
    • sam
    • Windows Internet Explorer
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    • On: 4/24/2007 8:19:45 AM
    r u talking about me?? shame on u qwaider! as long as people understand what i am writting , i do not care much about being too grammatically correct...man I have to worry about that enough for my assignments..what a nightmare...damned comma splice!
    i do find it annoying when people write long arabic sentences in english letters...it drives me crazy trying understand what the number substitutes mean. :o)
    I agree Q, it is very painful to read for some people, they have a great idea but you have live through the language ! if they wrote it in Arabic it would have sounded a lot better. what I would love to see too is people who actually choose to write in English to use the right spelling !
    • #12
    • Isam
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    • On: 4/24/2007 8:33:32 AM
    Q u can is say this to me face ... man !!!

    i write bad english because i have english bad teacher in classroom 4 ... why u r not make me feel good ?

    this is blog world man ... i write no one read ok ! i write everybody read ok ! everything ok !

    (i know it sounded more jamaicain than poor english ... but as i heard in recent song : it don't matter !!)

    i really think that pretending to know a language u dont know is bad ,,, but society makes a fuss abt it !!! English now is the key in Jordan ,,, so ppl someway or another need english ...

    all of us bilinguals should thank God alot ... ya3ne there are not alot of ppl in the world who can think in two languages that are so different !!!
    Ouch 7aki! 3an jad harsh! Whenever I read blogs for people who lack writing skills, I try and look into what they're trying to say, what point or message are they trying to convey. They might be brilliant in picking a topic or issue to talk about, regardless the way they're communicating it.

    Who said blogging was exclusive for the Shakespeares of this world? Blogs are not online versions of The Time magazine!

    Therefore, I vote for "giving them a chance!" ...

    - DO NOT be mean to them.
    - Visit their blogs.
    - Encourage them, embrace them. Welcome them to the blogosphere.
    - Comment on their posts.

    Who knows, maybe your support and encouragement will help them seek ways to improve their writing skills.
    • #14
    • Faten
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    • On: 4/24/2007 9:24:14 AM
    well...speaking for myself and many others, we're a generation who has a language-identity crises...what do you expect?
    it's not a question of individuals flaunting their english, french, or arabic on case by case basis....we're an entire generation who has no master over their own mother tongue to begin with in a society where the only way to get ANYTHING in this life is by squeezing a couple of english (american) words into every sentence into your every day life.
    i might be the one who rushes into pointing fingers but i blame society.
    i find it kinda funny to blame society, but well هادا اللي اجاك :)
    it will be nice , if u say this is ur personal opinion , u say it like a Rule ...

    IT IS A PERSONAL THING ,no matter who u type or the way ... it simple i dont care

    i get my hits ,have my reader who increase daily and all enjoy both type the REALLY bad English and POOR Arabic...

    كلامك كأنو قاعدة او شي متل هيك , يازملة اسمو بلودج موقع شخصي بكتب في خرابيش , حكي فوء حكي تحت , عربي مكسر انجليزي عدمان ,يلي مو عاجبو ما يقراء ولا يعزب حالو , ما بطلعلك تحكي هيك لأنه بكلامك هاد اعم تأشر على كتار وبصراحة بجرح  , كل واحد الو هدف من البلوج , مو شرط يكون بدو الناس تقرأ شو كاتب , عم يكتب و خلص ..

    يا اخي انا بحب اكتب انجليزي اكتر من عربي , مع انه بالعربي بطلع البوست احلى ,بس انا بحب الأنجليزي التعبان تبعي , عم يجيني نقاش و ردود عليه ,و مرتاح و مبسوط , حدا اخو مرائي شي؟؟؟  

    يعني متوقع بعد فترة اتحطها رول عندك بقويدر بلنت انه يلي بكتب بلغة سيئة ما بدي حطو عندي متل ما بدك , بس خف شوي كلامك هاد  برأي الشخصي ما بقدم ولا بأخر , اذا الله منعم عليك انه اتعلمت اللغة بأرضها  وبتعرفها مزبوط غير ,  بعيدن لما بصير اكتب بوست صيني لشوف شو بدك تحكي

    ...

    اكتار حسو انك عم تأشر عيلهم و هاد شي مو حلو وهي تاني يا 3 مرة بتعمل تفس الشي , بتحكي و بتأول ما بدي احكي اسماء او او , يا سيدي احكي و عبر على راحتك ما حدا الو عندك بس خليها رايك الشخصي  بدون تلميحات ...
    لأنو فعلا ضايقني كلامك حتى لو كان عن نصح  , مو هيك يلي بنصح

    "Just DON'T force yourself to write in a language that you really can't write with!"

    ما حدا بكتب غصب عنو  الأنسان بكتب بطريقة يلي بلاقيها و هو شخصيا مرتاح فيها ...

    واذا كلامي غلط وحدا عندو حكي تاني رجعوني ....

    تحياتي مستر رايت و رونج
    i wrote something very similar once in mahjoob, and i believe in it 100% illi ma bye3raf balash y7arref il lugha and make readers life harder coz they cannot possibly be coherent from the first time u read their sentences.. personally i suck in arabic, and i tend not to use it often coz i have bad arabic skills.. if any!

    true, its a personal space and a private blog, but guess what, its not so private! and whether we admit it or not, we write to receive recognition and comments, so its not entirely personal.
    • #17
    • Sel3
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    • On: 4/24/2007 2:26:02 PM
    what you said is hard, and 7aki you are shrene! i remember something from my english language teacher which was "it is about communication" . As long as you get the idea, and it is great, you should be focused on the idea itself rather than on the language used to deliver it.
    Tarzan
    Zaman 3annak....!

    انو؟
    What satire comrade?

    Sam
    Yes, I'm talking about you, me and everyone who thinks it's directed to them. There is nothing wrong in attempting to express.
    But actually, you do have a point. There are annoying things, and my post is there to help people improve.
    I know you're kidding, but .. I'll let it pass :)

    Tamara
    Thanks for agreeing. This is my point. Some people have fantastic ideas, clouded by their poor language skills. I find it sad really. And I wish I could do anything to help them

    Isam
    I read blogs from all sort of people and from all language abilities. And you know what are the best? People who know where their strengths are, and use them! They're the most successful!

    Who-sane
    Many have language barriers, computers barriers, typing barriers. This shouldn't stop their ideas from coming across. Especially if they're blessed with a talent or two.
    No one is making any ultimatums here. We are trying to ENCOURAGE them to seek help. And get better

    Faten,
    True, we do have a language issue. And barriers we need to cross, even mentalities we need to fix.

    Qabbani
    No Qabbani, this is not a personal opinion, this is a suggestion. A way to help others. Realizing the problem is the first step on the road to fixing it. You can find people who will sugar coat things for many people to digest. I will not.
    Of course it's a personal thing, just like bad driving it's a personal thing, BUT it affects other people. Which makes it, personal, but as Verbal Alchemy said, not private!
    صحيح اسمه بلوج، و مكان شخصي لكن مش مكان سرّي.. و طالما الناس بتقرأ شغلة فأقل شيء هو احترام عقولها و الكتابة بأسلوب مناسب
    بالنسبة للي مش عاجبه.. على قولتك.. هاد يا عزيزي شيء راجع الك.. و انته حر
    و طبعا ما حد اخو مرائك ..

    كلامي على فكرة خفيف كتير و ظريف و غير موجّه الك شخصيا.. لكن هو من باب النصيحية ممكن حد غيرك يستفيد منها. بما انك قادر على ايصال المعلومة "بنجاح" و عم ييجيك نقاش و انته راضي و مرتاح و مبسوط

    انا على فكرة بكتب انجليزي قبل ما اكتب عربي، من قبل ما آجي على "ارضها" و ما تعلمت شي جديد هون الله وكيلك.. بس من المدرسة

    انا ما عم بأشّر لا عليك و لا على اي حد تاني... انا عم انصح، و اوعّي و انبّه الناس لمواطن القوة لديهم حتى يستفيدوا منها و يبدعوا اكثر.
    انا ما بحب انّي اوجّه كلامي لشخص بعينه لأن المشكلة الصراحة غير شخصية .. بل على مستوى المجتمع كامل (مثل ما قالت فاتن)
    و لا تضايق ابدا .. هاي نصيحة.. و انته سيّد نفسك .. و حر بحياتك
    مع تحيات..
    مستر ويست
    Oh, and by the way, read this, just in case... http://blog.sweetestmemories.com/default.asp?Display=142

    Verbal Alchemy
    I think the issue can be categorized as an epidemic. Add denial to it, and you've got a full recipe for a futuristic disaster
    And I completely agree, it's a personal space, but not a private one!

    Sel3
    Hard? About communication? I'm communicating back that this form of communication is not very clear.
    You English language teacher is wrong (If he said that) if it was only about communications, we wouldn't go to exams, and sign language would be the international language.
    You need to get the idea, as easy as possible. And allow people to understand it.
    What you're saying is like saying that you can write the laws of electromagnetic without using Math and the idea will get through! hmmm
    I, respectfully, doubt it!
    hmmm, this is my first visit to ur blog, and i have few things to say,
    awalan: are u talking about me? i sure hope not :) im one of the people u can say i initiated the blog for the love of writing, and would like to receive better feedback to enhance my writing, dont know if im doing well yet (by the way, i type english tooooo fast thats why my comments tend to be toooooo long! cant control it :s)

    thanian: reading the comments, there are people who agree and those who dont agree, i tell u something, the blog is personal, and it is not secretive, that in no way prevents it from being completely personalized, and people who enjoy writing bad english, let them, u say why? i tell u why: after YouTube got sold to google for 1.65 billion dollars, my understanding of the web completely changed, its a huge huge audience, i never was a commentator on youtube, never uploaded anything, and dont know anyone who did, yet it was very popular, meaning? not everything successful on the web is meant to be shared by everyone, and not everybody shares ur enthusiasm about a certain website... u get the idea?

    thalithan: Abu Kabel in jordan university, electrical engineering faculty, DID communicate electromagnatics with no math whatsoever :s :s

    rabi3an: u seem to love gadgets, i dont like gadgets a lot but i dont mind them, i mind usability only, and typing inside this text area updates the area above it, which is pretty annoying :) (take a free consultation service, get rid of it, i can give u a 1000 reason why this doesnt work)

    khamisan: im not concerned about bad english, im more concerned about bad arabic, lets make an initiative to enhance our arabic words, by coming up with arabic substitutes to every cool fast seductive english word! what do u say?

    akheeran: are u using my website background? hmmmm, u owe me a visit and few comments, then i will let u have it :)
    OK since everybody thought I was harsh and did not see any humour in what I said (which was meant 3anjad as a joke and sorry if I hurt anybody’s feelings) I will be serious now.

    Nobody has any right to say to anybody " DON'T insist on writing in English! It's painful to read sometimes."

    First: You are not paying money to read them.
    Second: Only if somebody asks you to help you do that but to say I feel bad/sad for you and I want to help you is insulting and patronizing.
    Third: You don't like it don't read it (and that was my whole point from the above "harsh" comment. )

    3anjad I can see why Qabbani was offended (3anjad sorry Qabbani if you found my comment harsh and mean. I was not being serious. Sometimes writing something down that was intended as a joke might sound very than when you say it in front of the person)
    might sound very *different* than when you say it in front of the person)
    excuse me 7aki fadi, but you shouldn't really go on insulting people like that and accusing them of lacking the basic principles of blogging! ... (getting back at you!) :P
    @ قويدر

    لك يا رجال, انته عم تشوف شو عم تحكي شبك انته ؟؟؟؟ يعني شو احترم عقولها يعني انا  لما اكتب انجليزي بأخطاء املائية وقواعد , بألل من احترام يلي عم يقرأ !!! يوه شلون زبطط معك هي؟؟؟ فهمني ياها ؟   هي ما ركبت معي .... و كرمال الله يا ما تواخذني اذا قللت من احرامك اوه "احترام عقلك" بكتابتي المفشكلة , الك و لكل يلي حسو انه عم ألل من احرامهم ...  

    انا ما ألت سري  , الت شخصي , شخصي غير عن سري,على كلامك واحد لازم يكون معه توفل مشان يكتب بلغة تانية , ههههههههههههههه صحيح على سيرة التوفل بعد المقابلة الي المستر انه مؤهل ادم الإمتحان بس بدي تركيز اكتر ,,,,,,


    يا اخي تتهنى بإنجليزيتك يلي تعلمتها بالمدرسة , و الله يهينك , في فرق اكتير بين لما اتكون شايف كل الأوراق يلي حوليك انجليزي و عايش ببيئة بتساعد على انها تنمي و تثبت فيهك هاد الشي اكتر ,

    انا بالثانوية العامة الأستاز خبر واحد من اصحابي والو موفق ما رح ينجح بالإنجليزي , و نجحت و علما اني ما كتبت موضوع التعبير لأني ما كنت عرفان شو معنى كلمة جيرني  رحلة .. , و كل هاد والحمد لله بكتب عروض لشركات اكبيرةهون و بالأنجليزي كمان و بفهمو و بناقشو و بوافقو كمان ,
    للغة مو بس قواعد و هيك , للغة غير , واكتر من واحد دارس لغة و مترجم ما اعترض او علق على كتابيتي او وصفها متل ما انته وصفتها بأكتر من كم
    كومنت عندي

    بعدين , شلون ما عم تأشر علي اه ؟  يعني الكومنت يلي ترتكتن عندي لسة موجودين , و بأولو نفس كلامك هاد بالزبط ...

    يسلمو على النصيحة الغالية , و انا بقدر جهودك لإشعال الإبداع عند الأخر ,  لأنه فعلا احيانا الواحد بدو شخص ينكش وين الإبداع عندو

    على هيك بتعرف شو يعني ابداع , وكيف بنتج و الخ ... مممم

    قراتو  للبوست و دار هاذا الحديث مع نفسي

    مين قوديدر هاد؟ استاز لغةشي  ؟
    لكن شو  ؟
    بعلمي زلمة بالأي تي !!!
    ؟ شو مرجعيتو حتى اخد بكلامو انو مزبط  ورد عليه ؟
    طيب انجليزيتي تعبانه بس الناس عهم تقرا و تفهم ؟ شو كلن جدبان "عفوا يعني" "طيب ليه هنن عم يفهمو و يعلقو , وقودير لأ؟ عم يواجه صعوبة بفهم المحتوى ؟؟ او فك شيفرة يلي بكتب فيها ؟؟ ,  ليه ما اجاني تعليق على كتابتي انه فيها مشكلة غير من 2 ؟  يوه وين المشكلة طيب  , وكيف عرف مواطن القوة عندي ؟؟

    خطير هالزلمة  



    @ حكي

    في صديق عزيز و محترم جدا  بقرأ البوست وببعتلي التعديل على الإيميل , و بعرف وين الغلط وانا فعلا شاكر اله , وكان اسلوبه لطيف و حلو اكتير ,
    بس لسبب او لأخر مو دائما بعدل البوست بعد ما ينزل , بحاول اتفادى الأخطاء بالوبست يلي بعده , و غير هيك

    والظاهر عندي مشكلة بفهم شو كتبتي .. غريب مع انك عم تكتبي للغة صح , ليه؟؟ هيك  

    بدي اسئل قويدر ليه ؟؟؟؟

    ما فهمت انها مزحة , و ما وصلتي فكره انها عم تمزح

    اااااه واضحة المشكلة عندي انااااااااااااااااااااااا
    عند يلي بيقر أأأأأأأأ
    مو "بس" عند يلي بكتب

    بتعرف غنية عزت نفسيي ما بتسمحلي ... مابعرف خطر على بالي

    ااخ على بالي , بتعرف احيانا بس أقرا شغلات عندك بوقف بنص القرأة و بطل كمل , بتعرف ليه ؟ يمكن لأنو البوست طويل او انا مالي خلق للحكي مدري شلون ,  و بشك احيانا ان ال أي كيو عندي 122  غريب , شولن الأنسان بتأثر

    على كل مافي داعي انه تحط ليك مشان تشرحلي في عنك شخصك وانك هيك , عادي اتعودت عليك , و حلو هيك من فترة لفترة انك تحكي يلي بألبك ......

    ااااخ على ألبي
    ما علينا  تصبح على خير ..








    Qabbani ... تلاقي الخير
    Qwaider, that's it? I thought you're going to mop the floor with this moron!!
    I want to see blood!
    Mariam Ayyash
    Ahla oo Sahla, you're welcome anytime.
    No I'm not talking about you or anyone else. It's just an observation and I added some suggestions to help fix it.

    You're welcome to type as much as you like. We're not counting

    Thanyan,
    As with everything you'll find people on both sides of the isle. I do get your point. Not being attached (or in love) with a service doesn't mean that others don't find it fascinating and use it a lot. True
    But there are certain things that are a good image for people, when you write clearly, you convoy the ideas better. That's the whole thing

    Thalatheh...
    No math!!? and how did you solve Maxwell equations!?!! bilfahlaweh!!?

    Rabi3an:
    I love gadgets, that is true, I just received a couple yesterday and today, and I'm so excited about them :)
    The little preview above is actually a diversion from the general approach of having it below. The reason I have it is obvious, I want you to see what you're writing and how it's going to look. I find it very valuable for me. You don't like it?
    Maybe I can allow users to switch it off ... how about that?

    khamisan:
    Completely agree, I support you 100%

    Akheeran
    YES ... YES ... I liked the paper look ... it's fantastic ... I commend you on the choice
    And you be careful what you wish for ;-)

    7aki Fadi,
    I know you were kidding. And that you didn't mean to offend anyone.
    True, no one has that right, however, everyone has the right to ... well criticize a bad book! or a bad novel ... or yes yes .. bad English
    Second, I'm a little lost to the context of that line.
    Third, true, don't like it... don't read it ... or don't like it .. complain about it .. maybe someone listens and does something about it

    Who-Sane
    LOL ... now you're talking ... ya 7aramak ...

    Faten...
    LOL .... I don't know If I want to delete that comment of leave it!
    Can  you PLEASE cool down!!?... EVER!
    @ Faten

    watch ur words LADY ... please
    you don't know me, so show some respect if u know it ,  am not talking to you !!!!
    whoSane and Q :wijeh bilwae2: .
    • #29
    • Saned
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/25/2007 5:27:46 AM
    OK, this is getting ugly.

    Blogs originated so the writer can express the his or her opinions. Whether that person does it in English, Arabic, Finnish, etc is non of our business. One might use a blog as a way to practice a new language. Not everyone is privileged to know every single language in the World, and some people try to learn and practice, nothing wrong there. Like someone said earlier, your not being paid money to read a blog, so if you don't like a particular blog, or posts in a language that the blogger doesn't master, just don't bother to read it. Even as a native speaker of English myself, I make my mistakes. No one is immune from mistakes 3'air rab el3alameen.

    I know Qwaider was giving advice, and he tends to be critical so sam7ooh lela5 ;) And Qwaider, I don't have an Arabic keyboard, or even stickers on my keyboard, and I type without mistakes. Why don't you try to master the Arabic keyboard :)

    Yalla Salam
    Q,
    I don't know why people felt offended!!
    LoL @ faten, hahahaha...
    When i first started blogging two months ago I used to read and check out lots of blogs, but as I matured over time, I began to eliminate some blogs just because it is hard to read and adds nothing but 3lak fathi(7aki-fadi) :D And for people who are weak in english I really think that you should learn and try, you will not be able to learn unless you make mistakes, so while surfing the web try to learn how to write rather tha watching pictures like little kids, the internet gave us an infinite resourse that is underused by all of us, learning and making mistakes shouldn't make you feel bad, and Q didn't mean to offend anyone, sometimes I make mistakes and I would like to hear about it..
    And by the way we shouldn't always blame schools and teachers for our lack of knowledge, because it is your task to seek out for knowledge, you are old and mature enough to use the billions of brain cells that are on the bench waiting to be in the field!!
    It is the typical arab mentality, the blame game..
    No offence to anyone, but I just hate it when people don't want to improve!!!
    My bad week is supposed to be weak:D
    Sannad... Mistazref 7alak el youm!
    I don't have an Arabic keyboard either, nor stickers. And all I type is trial and error.

    I made no mistakes, and my concern for people is genuine, it's not just to criticize.

    Anyone who would say that "Don't READ" if you don't like the spelling, grammatical, and even whole ideas. I say, DON'T READ if you don't like to LEARN, GROW and be proper humans!

    We all make mistakes, there is no shame in that, there is A LOT OF SHAME in DENIAL and not seeking to improve!
    • #33
    • Saned
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/25/2007 7:23:00 AM
    Qwaider, I meant constructive criticism. Besides, I believe, as I said, that people use their blog to learn. I haven't come across many of these blogs, but I think people tend to improve the more they write. =)
    People improve if they're open for feedback. When they listen to their deficiencies and try to fix them. That's would help people improve.
    This article contains advice and suggestions to improve. Without pointing fingers. If you check, I haven't made any finger-pointing. But apparently many thought they're the target!
    okay about the update area, allowing the users would be on target, but here is why it does not work, first, as u type, the area above changes size and the text area starts scrolling down the page, that is annoying to anyone who types, now putting the area beneath, does not make people stop to see how it looks like, it does not make them even read to preview, lenno many times u hit preview, u start reading, u find a mistake, u read the area again to fix it... if u can make the text area look EXACTLY like the comment (usung same width, font, color and all) and increase height (or maybe making height dynamically grow) u would hit jackpot [i like this approach im gonna develop one for my site :)]
    another solution, create a preview link that does (on client side) display the comment above...
    as for electromagnatics, well abu kabel had his ways! i think we used greek a lot (u know that greek letters are famous in ee, but in electromagnatics, we litterally used all letters of the greek alphabet IN TWO CASES)
    akheeran, thank u for liking my "home made" background :) wanted to say that because im proud of it ;) w ahla w sahla any time
    @Qwider

    "I haven't made any finger-pointing. But apparently many thought they're the target!"

    for god sake when u put this comment at my blog

    ""Mishan Allah oktob bil3arabi … Wallahi I didn’t understand a single word.

    Don’t tell me you’re learning because no one is correcting your stuff so how are you learning?

    Man your English is really REALLY bad!""

    then i read this post from u DO U THINK I SHOULD NOT FEEL Pointing !!!!!!!!!! u make ur self clear more than ONCE  i DO RESPECT THAT but it become TOO MUCH TO keep repeat your self .... like this way..

    Plus u say MANY MANY MANY , not only me felt it ...
    Since you're insisting on this! Then I guess... you asked for it
    A) I didn't mean you in particular
    B) You DO have VERY bad English, a 7th grade student would be ashamed
    C) You are NOT taking any hints
    D) Just as you stated, if you don't like the language, don't read it. Same goes to you, if you don't like criticism, don't read it
    E) At least I had the courage to keep your words on my blog, regardless of how insulting they were. Sadly I can't say the same about you!
    F) I really, and sincerely had an interest and best intentions in helping out. But some people just don't even deserve helping!
    G) I'm FREE to criticize what I don't like, and if I see someone stupid I'm going to say they are stupid!

    I have no idea why you're INSISTING on aggravating me, you KNOW that I don't want to point fingers yet you kept at it!

    I hope you got what you came here to find... and yes it's completely true, اللي على راسو بطحة بيحسس عليها
    • #38
    • Isam
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/25/2007 10:32:33 AM
    3arab ...
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    u made me smile , LOOOOL,
    okay man

    i got what i want and PROVE what i want , thank you Alot  fast note

    A) yes u didn't , but when leave 5-6 comments all to criticize my english write and then read this post , sure it's point to me  

    B)let it be 5th grade student ,who feel NO shame from do mistakes in fort of ppl cuz might the 7th grade student offend to write like me >>> who know ...

    C) should i ?

    D) i read it , i have point of view i show it , criticize  are welcome in your Blog  , so be cool

    E)insulting !!!!! i left all ur comment on my english writes unless TWO , cuz when u keep say something 3-4 times and u know it offend me , and told u that in some way  , MAN I HEAR IT , u keep say it again why u had to repeat your self  that much ,am not convinced , should i keep hear it from u all time till i do what ARE YOU SAYING !!!!!!!!

    F) good luck man , wish u all luck , but you know really some ppl don't even deserve helping!  so poor them

    G)" if I see someone stupid I'm going to say they are stupid"

    someone= they are ... yeah so  I DO chief editor

    man ,
    your talking way is like obvious that ur 100% right(even its not) , and that what the ppl ur talking about SHOULD DO as your OPINION !!!!!!!

    u need to listen to the other side and understand why they had this problem or how they can fix it well , by know where is the problem exactly i find a solution for it


    any way i just  gave u back the feel u gave me when get all old comments and read this post ...


     
    مبسوط حبيبي؟
    ياللا كويّس... لعل و عسى تستفيد .. و تفيد العالم
    المهم الرسالة و صلت الك او لغيرك... المهم.. الامانة .. وصلت

    عقبال ما اشوفك بتكتب احسن واحد انشالله
    ياللا.. خودلك اكمن كورس انجليزي.. يمكن تستفيد
    اللي على راسو بطحة بيحسس عليها
    Fe3lan enno good saying!!

    ميرسي يا خي على زوقك  يا  وردة :)

    بس نقطة صغيرة جدا , انا اذاانته ملاحظة ما الت انه انجليزتي ممتازة او لا بالعكس انا معترفا كليا انه انجليزيتي تعبانه واكتار بيعرفو هاد الشي  ما انكرت هاد الشي بالعكس بحكي  , بس الفكرة انه عطيتي رأيك مرة , و عرفت رد فعلي . رجعت حكيت هاد شي كمان وكمان  ,   المشكلة مو انا بس يلي ادايقت من كلامك , ...  بس مدري ليه ما حدا حابب يحكي

    يا اخي ما جبت سيرتي بس ما قصرت بالكومنت على نفس المووضع و الكومنت لسة موجودين واكتار من يلي بجو عندي بيجو عندك , !!

    وفي منهم بمزح لما يشوف البوست انجليزي , بحكلي يلا هلا بجي قويدر و بحط  وبسمعك كم كلمه عليه  



    انحرج من شو  ؟؟هاهاهاها  انا ما عندي مشكلة انه اكون ما بعرف لغة و بكتب فيها , بتعلمها حبة حبة نونة نونة , مافي وراي شي ,  ولا انكرت , انا بقلك انه عادي يلي عم بكتو في غيرك عم يفهمو , ما انكرت و الدليل على ذلك انه

    في اكتر من بوست بعد ما نزلو , رجعت دعلت اخطائم الإملائية والنحوية و الصرفية ألخ ألخ

    الحكي هاد لأنه اجاني منك كلام مباشر على انه انجليزيتي سيئة و العربي احسن, ونصحتي اضل اكتب عربي ,

    وصلت الفكرة شكرا جزيلا , نقط على السطر   و رجعت مرة تانية و تالته ورابعة  ؟ يا اخي بتحبي و بتحب انه تفهم شو عم اكتب  الي هي الكلمة غلط

    ألي استخدم هاد المصطلح اقوى او متعارف عليه اكتر  .  اما بتجي بتأول  اعمل تصحيح اخطاء املائية ,وبتروح


    انا مالي مقتنع انه كلامك 100% صح في منو ما بنكر ابدا ,بس لأنو الواحد بتعلم و بفهم و برقي حالو  يمكن اضل لغتي الأنجليزية ضعيفة طول عمرها لأنه عندي مشكلة بمخي انه ما بستوعب اللغة ,
    وخاصة انه في جزء بالدماغ خاص بهاد الشي , يمكن انا تعملت اللغة مشان ارفع ضغط الناس, و يمكن انا مالي مهتم باللغة و اخد كفايتي يلي انا بحتاجها بحياتي  يمكن في اسباب معينة

    ما بتقدر تعاير الناس بغبئها لأنه يمكن هاد يلي الله عطى ياها و عقلو ما بتحمل اكتر من هيك,
    حتى لو يوحي انه غير هيك
    حتى لو كان الظاهر غير هيك ..



    بعدين سلاممتك عرفك يا اخي

    الحمار صبور
    التيس شغيل

    الزخانة بدها ليمون ..

    كون متفائل و اطلع على الجانب المشرق   :)  

    وانا ما بكرهك , بس ما بحب اسلوبك احيانا بالتعبير و خاصة النقد يلي ما حسيت انه بناء بكل الأوقات

    لما انتقدت المسلسل , وغيرها مو معاول الكل ما بتقبل النقد يلي بهطريقة , يعني مو بس انا ما اتقبل نقدك بألك على عيني وراسي  ,بس اكتر من شخص , وال غريب محدا حابب "ينحرج" و يحكي و يسمع الجواب ...

    تحياتي لك :)  منشوفك على خير  :)   وبعدين جد لا انحراج ولا مدري شو , لو مالي اد الحكي ما كنت فتحت تمي , بعدين انا عرفان مع مين عم احكي :)

    الحياة حلوة بس نفهما , و دوئي يا مزيكة ....

    دخيلو المعصب انا هاهاهاها عادي ابو سوس عألي صعب , عزبتك معي ...
    يا عيني عليك... مدام اخيرا وصلت الفكرة و بديت ترد بالعربي... انا كمان حققت حلم الامة العربية

    بالنسبة للزناخة.. عفوا بحالتك، ما الها حل.. لو تحممت باليمون و تغطيت بالطحين

    ما حد عايرك بغبائك (لحد هلأ) بس ما بعرف.. ممكن اكتب موضوع عن الغباء و احط صورتك.. ما بتضمن :)

    و حبيبي.. التيس مو شغّيل.. شكلك مو عارف حتى شو هوة التيس! (ذكر الماعز) شو بيشتغل بالله؟

    يا سيدي عقلك انا بشوفو مرة باليوم.. حزنان عليك .. عايش معو على طول.. الله يكون بعونك


    تسلم يا ابو السوس , هيك امسك اعصابك وماتخليني استفزك بكلامي خليك احسن مني

    , والله يا باشا بس اخلص من الصيني  برجع للأنجليزي

    حبة حبة و وبعين الله  اهم شي اهم الشي

    انه الواحد يتعلم من غلطو و يكون متفائل لأنه لسا الدنيا بخير يا حبيبي يا حبيبي

    :)

    اعجبتكم المناظرة ,  استفدتو  , وفعلا البطحة احلى شي لما بتحسس عليها و يلي بدق بالباب بدو يسمع الجواب يكون قدو ....   ويلي ما الو دخل يضل ما الو دخل لأنه في شي بسمو بتلحقو طرطوشة   


    اااخ , شفت الباصات الجديدة يلي نازلمة اشي من الأخر  ..

    دمتم سلامين
    I bet you that faten is having lots of fun now, you got what you want, right?
    قدّو؟
    لا حبيبي.. انا مش قدك..
    يعني فوق ما انك تنح مبسوط على حالك؟
    طيب كتير حلو
    ذكر الماعز بستأل بشغلو  ... ولول



    عألي معي والله مغلبي اكتير اكصلا انا فتحت البلوغ مشان اخلص منو شوي و فلا الله يعين عليه  امين

    مبسوط شو بدي اعمل احسن ما اكشر و عطيها عبوس  مبسوط و الحمد لله :)  على نعمة القناعة

    بعدين ليه ما اكون مبسوط , اين المانع , مافي  زير از نوسنج يمنع  

    قويدر حط كونت و حذفو قبل ما حدا ينتبه عليه   , لأنه احسن مني و بدو يخلص   
    من"تنحتي"  وبيني وبينكم وانا كمان بدي اخلص ... مو حلو هيك هلا بفكرونا اعداء  

    تحياتي قويدر

    و اعتذر على ازعاجك :)  

    وفي ناس بترعف حالها  مبسوطين ؟؟ دخليو انا الكودنشن
    دخيل الزناخة انا! والله بعطيك بطولة العالم في الزناخة
    Aywa ... haik!
    I totally agree with Qwaider, I'm sure Nizar Qabbani is tossing and turning in his grave right now!

    Hey you can call me FiryFaten :)

    I can't believe anyone could be that thick! Sorry Qabbani... No one can cure stupidity!
    Faten, I'm going to call you PMSing Faten. :) You seem to be bitching just about anything in the world...
    Your tongue needs Clorox. But I still love it!
    Don't you dare call me that
    faten u sound very familiar, like a faten i used to work with! always edgy and always ready to jump down anyone's throat.. r u a leo too?
    • #55
    • Saned
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/26/2007 9:19:37 AM
    LOL

    انا كمان حققت حلم الامة العربية

    This reminded me of the American dream.

    Thanks for making my day Qwaider.

    -Saned, Thursday, 3.17 am.
    Verbal Alchemy!
    :S laish? Am I that bad? Wa33333:'(!!

    Where did used to work :S!! (ya rab ma tkooni elli fi bali)
    faten, erm, so ur a leo? meen bi balek :evil smily he3 he3:
    You too can have your Memories Documented

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