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« And it dies with marriage...Mr Cheese »

Naseeb!

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:08:57 AM
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    Rated 4.6/5 stars (144 votes cast) Thanks for your vote!

    You met someone, they seem to be decent, nice, cute, interesting, funny, pretty [...fill in your favorite adjective here] you get along for a while and then you seem to fall out of favor. Or you decide to take it to the next level, and there it falls apart. Or maybe you even decide to get married, prepare everything and then at the very last moment, on the day of the wedding, the invitations have been sent, the Zaffeh troupe is at the door and it falls apart ...

    pho

    People call it Naseeb (Kismet, predestined) ... Other call it intuition... and others call it something else. But the end result is the same. Something that you wanted, and planned for is not going to happen for reasons beyond your own capacity to understand.

    Truth is, there are always subliminal reasons but we just can't comprehend them at the time. We're probably trying to silence the noise raging inside our heads when a million people start asking what went wrong. Why, how and where ... and the dreaded question, "why did you wait till now to do this!"

    Thing is, people change, what we feel changes. People have fears. And the realization of one thing might be the trigger of a hidden fear that we really didn't anticipate.

    In psychology they are known as "hidden side of events" similar to free association, a negative form of free association. These hidden feelings, phobias , repressed or suppressed are all in there, they might be extremely difficult to detect or understand. And might force some people to go down the path that they themselves might regret. And they know it. But they would do it anyway.

    Enough about psychology, and back to the social aspect of this matter. This Naseeb thing is a marvellous peace of mind for the believers. It's one of those black holes with no return. Imagine the typical answer "Why didn't it work out" and the answer is "Naseeb" which just short circuits everything, and you no longer have to explain, present reasons, discuss, argue, come to an agreement and possibly an action plan. It just throws all of that out of the window with one simple word. Naseeb.

    Realists argue that Naseeb is an unknown, so how did anyone know that this indeed is the Naseeb? And not some crazy skewed image of a fable mentality or society?

    Like a criminal investigator, If we look deeper, we start finding clues. We start finding evidence. When we collect all this evidence, we start getting closer to the root-cause. Naseeb, is probably the least related item in this case. It's the easiest answer, but the farthest from the truth

    If we look closely we discover that our first impressions are often wrong. We discover that we have over valued people or under estimated them. For a person to be a fantastic judge of character every single time would be a miracle. If someone is delusional to say that they are like that. The answer is simple. If you have the talent to identify great people from first impression. Then you probably have friends who made it really big, and therefore you would probably benefit.

    But more than likely .. that's not the case

    Naseeb is something that helps us cope with the complexity of this world. It helps us throw the towel and say we don't know. It helps us sleep better at night knowing that it was all out of our hands. It's one of those internally produced mental narcotic that allows us to see a peachy view in the face of the most severe negativity. Naseeb is the way our minds cope with our helplessness and despite the mental health issues related to it, the consequences of not believing even at the subconscious level in this Naseeb would be far worse on the mental health of everyone.

    Knowing that you have done wrong. Makes you feel bad, makes you lose self confidence and esteem. You start underestimating your worth and feel smaller and smaller. Naseeb sprints in to the rescue of the injured ego. All you have to believe that there was nothing else you could have done (or no one else could have done) and you're home free. Naseeb just makes it feel better. Puts the raging ideas to rest, like a prescription antidepressant

    Now who said believing is not a good thing!?

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    I’ve said it before and I keep saying it every time I hear this word NASEEB, people make bad choices for whatever reasons, and treat themselves by convincing themselves and the others that it’s NASEEB…
    I totally believe in naseeb, but that applies only on the cases that it’s out of your hand, if someone dies… NASEEB, if someone got sick… NASEEB. When you leave you husband/wife.. NOT NASEEB, that’s your choice.
    O hate people who finds Naseeb easy excuse for there mistakes or choices, you made a choice, take responsibility.. Admit it… people don’t change out of the blue, if a person stopped liking someone, that’s because so many reasons.. naseeb has nothing to do with it… ma ashtarna b rami kol shi 3ala shama3et el naseeb…
    Thanks Q for this… perfect timing for your post  
    I agree that when one wants to rest in peace after struggling with what seems to be a restless failed decision, they put it on Naseeb. I believe in Naseeb as much as I believe in free will.. we have the will to choose after examining things in our minds, so not always is NASEEB a justified answer. As Maioush said, somethings are just out of hands, like, death, sickness, or certain acceidents that happen, however, not always is naseeeb the right answer for our choices. Eventually, it is a choice when one leaves a relationship or marriage at the very last second, it would be either that the person was blind and discovered that at the very last second, or he/she simply have feelings towards somebody, or even something else in their lives.. but it remains a choice one makes that leads to what God has planned for the person(naseeb).
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    • sam
    • Windows Internet Explorer
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    • On: 4/14/2007 7:35:33 AM
    but u gotta love the word naseeb...when i broke up with my ex fiances it was the easiest thing to say to shut people up....what did they expect me to go and on about the stuff that happened to lead us to breaking up? so saying well it was our naseeb, we are not meant to be ...and traa subject is over...lets talk about what i bought at the mall today or about one mosalsal or another..... but yes i agree not everything is naseeb...we make our own choices, and whether we make the right choice or not we have to accept it and work on correcting it.....staying with an abusive husband is not your naseeb..it is your choice...you can get up and leave, nothing can be worse!.....do not blame your naseeb for it..
    Let me tell u this..
    i won't comment on the issue itself cause you know i agree with every word you said..
    What caught my attention here now is your writing..
    hat tip :)
    you've always been good but lately you took it to a higher level..you write a whole ,full ,complete article that deals with every aspect and you don't just write a one sided openion..
    mashallah..i enjoy reading so much..very very well written..
    the style,structure and flow of the sentences are high quality indeed..
    great job Q :)
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    • MOA_No1
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/14/2007 5:16:25 PM
    people keep mixing Qadar with Allah's knowledge of everything, like maioush said death and sickness are Qadar, but because allah knows that we are going to make a bad decision regarding this relation it doesn't render the result Qadar, naseeb is our scapegoat
    • #6
    • sam
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/14/2007 8:17:30 PM
    it sounds to me like u have been thinking about marriage/relationships/weddings/naseeb alot lately eh?
    Yah Sam, he did mention that somewhere in a post or a comment, can’t remember where, about finding a person :), yah Q spill the beans :) (I am being totally obnoxious and nosy, feel free to tell me off :) )
    MAioush,
    That is basically what I'm trying to say. Naseeb is really no the real excuse

    Secratea
    Yes, some things are really out of our hands .. many others however are not

    Sam
    I'm glad it served you. But I think deep inside you .. you know the reasons

    Caller,
    My head is so big now.. I have problems getting out of the shirt :)

    MOA
    Yes, as you and maioush have said, People use it as scapegoat

    Sam
    Only lately? Nope .. This area fascinates me :)

    7aki Fadi
    Into mittif2een 3alai .. I can see that :)
    • #9
    • Jasim
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/15/2007 8:29:26 AM
    Naseeb doesn't exist, I second that. But really I am not a big fan of believing in things that don't exist for the sake of us not being hurt, in a way it's like denial. I am afraid if I believed in Naseeb thing to put my mind at ease, I would one day wake up and ask myself what the hell went wrong? and then blame myself endlessly on what has happened!
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    • أنونيموس
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 4/15/2007 9:26:56 AM
    Naseeb is the name of the Arab Scapegoat. Now, given that we love to blame other people for our problems, Naseeb is only used as a very last resort. It's when the blame is divided over too many necks, or when you don't want to blame a person who's side you're on for being faulty. You just blame it on Naseeb instead. Then you keep saying it till you start believing it :)
    Nasseeb is the end result no the reason, this world is based on rules and every things goes by those rules the only exception would be a miracle, so we have to look deeper into things we call naseeb, for example its maybe "written" that you will not be with particular person for long, but WHY is totally your doing or their doing! understanding that this might be for the best and accepting it is a totally different thing, other wise life will stop ! someone will say I never had naseeb to work with this company, forgetting that s\he is totally unqualified !  
    you are a good educated man actuelly ... i really like the topic ... but somehow .. i can't understand just WHY??? why things have to change??? can't we just be happy???
    i believe in elnaseeb .. i really do, but sometimes it hurt u .. what can you do?? just if anyone can answer this question ..
    it's not only in love and relationships .. it appears in everyrhing .. so what can YOU do?? stand here and discuss it??that will not change the reality .. wish it cuould ..
    thank u 4 explaning such a good topic .. i feel kinda depressed and i needed this just to wake up ..:)
    I totally believe in Naseeb from what I saw till now in my life ... u see people spend years loving each other and planning for their future but one day u come and see they r acting like strangers!! so what happened ?
    and others they never met but they got married after a week ...

    I can talk about naseeb the whole day ....

    U do ur best to get this job or leave the country but nothing work out with u but others just get what they want without even asking !! so is it my fault or ur fault ? it’s naseeb and thinking of it this way maybe give us some peace of mind
    I believe in Naseeb to a certain extent…actually it’s a vague thing that I tried to understand …If a couple broke up then it must be for a reason!  The concept of Naseeb in my point of view contradicts with the person’s willingness to choose his path…its like God directing us to what he wants, right? If so, although I doubt,Then what’s the point of life if opportunities/chances were already chosen & decided? Is it a play then ?
    Many questions but as u said ppl tend to find the easy answer for all their problems by saying its NASEEEB.
    You too can have your Memories Documented

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