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I love politics from kids with blogs! They just think they are such a bunch of babies!
Fact: every body is hypocrite in his own way. Normalization with Israel is bad because of “Israel aggression and this ultimately will not serve the national strategic issues”. However, migrating to the west and the US and LIVE there for the rest of your life is the best thing you can do.
When did we last elect a prime minister?
Israel is more democratic, why do we need to compare ourselves to Syria and Saudi Arabia? Iran is more democratic. Turkey is more democratic, Lebanon is more democratic. Why do we always have to compare our self to the class loser?
As for my personal choice that's my business and you sure damn as hell have absolutely no right to say a single word about that! It's my life and I do as I chose with it. Had I had the same chances back home I would have stayed. And I AM going back, and you can take that to the bank!
Only the part about normalizing with Israel has a lot more than what it simply shows. The whole idea of that we're the most democratic country in the region has gotten on my nerves a lot lately, the "region" has magically become "Egypt, Syria, Saudi", three of the WORST examples in the whole world, and my! how we love to compare ourselves with Syria! Jordan (first!) has nothing called torture in prisons because it's no where near torture in Syrian and Egyptian prisons, we're democratic because we don't slaughter thousands in the the streets like Ref'at or Saddam used to do, this is how democratic we are.
I'll add another myth: the Jordanian regime has a sincere will of establishing real democracy in Jordan. and I do mean one person by the word regime.
When you put loyalty on the line you get different views, some are islamic loyalists, some palastine loaylists, some arab loyalists but no jordan loyalists!!Isn't that weird?
Not dealing with israel is only palestanian interest-people in palastine drink and eat and wear israeli products- so why don't we boycott them?!
You must choose between loyalties and never change yours..If you live in jordan and want democracy be loyal to jordan not anything else, what is good for jordan is good for palastine..All the fuss that we hear about the new political parties law is because they added something about members from all around jordan, this made The IAF mad because rural areas have no "jordanian-palastenian" population, so they lost the votes..
Well thats the whole idea!!Jordan interests has to be first!!
Anyway Qwaider I appreciate you also bringing this up, and I am sure that I am the one meant by your post.
Faten:Spit!!Is this the kind of mentality that you have!!
Faten:The babies will come back, and have their Ph.D:)
Iran is not democratic qwaider!!Iran is rules by fanatics who consider themselves GODS!!
Lets get this debate in the open, we want to see who is loyal and who is not and why?
I will be accused of being a racist, sorry for using that much space..
You are talking about democracy while at the same time you are ok with the IAF hitting anyone who trades with israel, weird right?
Jordan existed 5000 years ago; it was mentioned by the prophet(PBUH),
Nationalism is the most imporatant thing, it is not from the past as you stated. why do some people have the mentality of( We suffered so let them suffer), why is it ok for palastenians to be national and it is not ok for jordanians?
Is it because jordan didn't exist before 1948 or 1967? You see, my whole point is no one even gives us the right to be a country, we were bedouins wandering in the desert, we had no water, no electricity and then all of a sudden the refugees came and made us "bani-admeen" (as we were animals before!!), you know!! I don't know what caused that, maybe it is the 70's civil war.
My question: Why is it ok to love palastine and not ok to love jordan?Does loving jordan too much makes me a racist as you stated?Does putting jordanian interests first make us traitors?Why do we have to loose everything for the actions of some people?
God said in his book"We created you as nations" how do you deny nationalism? Oh, I forgot, we are from the arab nationality!!
Anyway this debate is good and healthy..God bless jordan(Racist statment!!)
this is ahmad oweidi al abbadi debate styel which it is racist.
I live in the US for now, you can measure loyalty here because of the "freedom of speech", I socialize with people and know their loyalties by the questions they ask(i.e:they ask are you jordanian or palastenian?) This question by itself explains alot.. El abbadi is looking for a government position he is nothing!!Loyalty is not racism, loyality is putting jordan interests first, thats all.
Again God bless Jordan, I don't see anyone saying god bless jordan here..
I agree we can't calculate loyalty and in ideal situation you can't and you shouldn't accuse some body of being traitor unless you can prove it. and for the IAF i think we can.
Take it easy. We can't just accuse people of being disloyal like that. There's a lot that goes around and since this is politics things are rarely what it seems.
Omar:
Thanks Man, that's exactly what we should do. Lets compare ourselves with the right bunch. And push forward to really be first.
Mohannad#1:
Let me start with, I don't know where you got the Idea that it is you that is meant by this article. But it's cute how we like to think that the world revolves around "us". No offence of course.
The way I see it is that many people are really not in a position to question other people's loyalties because they absolutely don't know them. Separating everyone as either Jordan loyalist vs Everyone else, is (a) Extremist, (b) Wrong, and (c) Too naive.
If anyone else in the world deals with Israel, that is not our problem. What concerns me (as a Jordanian) is the flow of smartly dressed business men who are buying thousands, even millions of Dunums at premium prices for (What?) Who has this interest in selling our land and natural resources to Israel? Heck if someone was selling this land to Syria I would be upset! Wouldn't you?
Second, since when did the people living across the river suddenly become "Aliens from out of space"? There isn't a SINGLE JORDANIAN in WHOLE OF JORDAN that doesn't have family across the river.
As for Iran, yes, it's ruled by fanatics, who consider themselves Gods, and .... Who were elected by their people. Oops! That makes it more democratic than us! Sorry, my bad
Why is it so easy for anyone to just question other people's loyalty? Is this the mentality of a PhD? Then we're doomed!
Rest assured that the loyalty of the whole is apparent. Questioning it is exactly like the patriot act in the US, If you're not with us, you're Al Qaeda!
Mohanned#2:
Actually, (and read my last sentence in the article) I'm talking about how we're not ready for democracy and we should give all this authority back. We have no idea what democracy is, and we debate, accuse people, and violate democracy in every way. Then lets just get it out of the way and get it over with!
Now, lets read through the interesting arguments:
Where do you read in my Article that I am siding with IAF? Did you notice the part that I wrote about "WE" being EVERYONE other than IAF being the minority? Read it again, Please.
Jordan probably existed way more than 5,000 years ago.
Nationalism is basically what we had in the Fifties, sixties, seventies and died out. It's obvious that it has fallen out of favor ELSEWHERE. The proof is in the statistical evidence. Look at the numbers of IAF, and the numbers of ALL nationalistic parties COMBINED. What do you see? The weight of the heavy foot of IAF on all of them! That's a force to recon with, that's a force to use Politics with, that's a force that has the ability to tear Jordan apart.
Who is suffering? And who wants to make others suffer? Why would anyone want anyone else suffer? You think Palestinian origin Jordanians are less loyal than others? Are you out of your freakin mind? That's the most racist thing ever and if we really had democracy, uttering such junk should be punishable by the law.
I'm going to say this very clearly, Frack Palestine OK? It's not the issue of Palestinians that Jerusalem is occupied, it's the shame of every Arab, Muslim and fair person in the world that such atrocity has been committed on our watch. This is OUR LAND (yes, yours too, your honor lies there too) We are ALL in this together.
I have no idea what you're smoking man, Jordan existed for thousands of years, there were some nomads all over it, but the majority of the settled populations had very close ties with their extended family in Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and even areas farther than that.
Who doesn't give Jordan the right to be a country? Who would dare say that!? Why did the refugees flock to Jordan? (1) because it's close, and (2) because they had TIES with it! They were already involved with the populations there. And many of the Refugees just moved closer to their family.
And yes, Jordan didn't have electricity by 1948 then the refugees came and Jordan got electricity, But I fail to see the connection between refugees and electricity! But hey, we can stick some electrodes up theirs and rid our self from from dependency on foreign oil
Loving one place is not exclusive. Every Jordanian should love their land, and Palestine is really part of our land. OURS, YOURS and MINE and we love it all.
Now, haven't you learnt ANYTHING from my article? These SOME people in a DEOMOCRATIC nation have a voice and representation. Oh sorry, we really want to tailor democracy to our liking first.
If loving Jordan makes anyone racist then I would be the first [proud] racist there is. For god's sake read the article and see how I try to show that people who have different approaches to express their love are not necessarily traitors!
Yes it appears that you forgot that even though your name ironically is "Arabyat" how sad is that!
Yes, God bless Jordan, and all Arab land!
Hamede:
Absolutely, Racist, Evil and completely undemocratic, you're either like ME or you're my Enemy.
Mohanned#3:
Someone is on a roll here :)
I never asked anyone if they're Jordanian or Palestinian, but in your omnipotent wisdom you discovered that only Palestinians ask that question? Come on now!
Loyalty is not quantified "simply" like that. Yes lets put Jordanian interests first. But define Interests? Selling land to foreigners is Jordan's interest? Normalizing with enemies is Jordan's interest? Committing racism against our own population is in Jordan's interest? allowing corruption is in Jordan's interest?
Habchawi:
Again, my choice is mine, and mine only you have no right to even think about it OK? Why do we have to bundle everyone with Israel? Huh? US is not Israel And that's the end of that. Don't bring it up again, it's not open for debate
What the hell are you smoking man!!? (and can I have some?) Dude, I wouldn't call anyone Kafer, nor beat you up. But I'm trying to quantify this and steer it towards the issue itself, my personal choices are irrelevant. Grow up!
I'm being judgemental with anything that has to do with my own life. And trust me, I'm more pride and benefit to Jordan here than I ever was or will be there. I make sure that I represent my country in every positive way that I can. And I'll leave it at that.
I don't think IAF are traitors. Hundreds of thousands of Jordanians CAN'T all be traitors. How easy it is for you to say that! It makes me sick! You're being the very thing you just mentioned above, calling them Traitors. They have the right to call you Kafir too
Wake UP! It's not about you! It's about everyone!
Man, you have a long breath:) anyway I am talking from a perosnal experiment with the world.
My questions to you:
1- If we assume that jordan became a democracy and the IAF tool control, what would be our situation, you will have to grow a beard:) and your sister and my wife will have to dress as they like, their democracy won't fit us.
2- Is the IAF using jordanians of palastenian origin as a tool or not? They have jordanian faces on the front I agree but if you do some math you will find that 90% of the members are from palastenian origin.
3- Yes my family name arabiat, and I am proud to be an arab, and yes my blood boils when I see what happens in palastine and iraq but I learned to use my head not my heart to make decisions, My head tells me that there is enough people in palastine to fight for the cause and me as a jordanian don't have to pay the price for any action that anyone who is not loyal to jordan might take i.e the IAF which is a political arm of hamas or vice versa(they have some kind of realtionsihp).
4- We have to get to the point were people on both sides of the river decide where they belong more, yes we are relatives and yes our blood is the same but we have to make a choice.
5- IAF is a "majority" as you claim because there is no national movement that have a clear national agenda "for me and I speak for the people I know, we wouldn't like to be ruled by the IAF. If someone, not corrupt who loves jordan from the heart create a national movement I would gurantee you that the IAF will become less than a minority.
6- Commiting racism against own population: Once in the 70's there was a civil war in jordan(my family owns a washing machine which has the "fedda2yeh" bullets when they attacked our home in jabal el taj and tried to kill my father just because he is "jordanian")
7- Jordanian are the most generous people on the earth, but when they get bit this leave a scare for along time, so it is not racism..There would be no racism if each and every one was loyal to jordan first-palastine is in the heart but jordan is in the mind-
8- Regarding Jordan being a country, I want to know the people you hang out with, as for me when I socialize with "jordanians" in the US I see RACISM, Jordan is being called a desert with a bunch of 7'erfan which is us jordanian, Thats is why I stopped socializing with those people..
9- Loving one place is not exclusive. Every Jordanian should love their land, and Palestine is really part of our land. OURS, YOURS and MINE and we love it all.
I love that but 99% wouldn't agree(the average JOEs)
10- Selling land to foreigners: Who are the foreigners? investors? They are more than welcome! What is interesting about you is that you seem like a well educated person but at the same time you have a deep ideology that is affecting you without noticing.
11- We live now in a different world qwaider, media is the most powerful weapon, not the RBG not the AK-47, We as arabs are weak now, islam tells you "la tarmoo ba2nfosekom ela tahloka", Build a string economy, educate people, teach them how to speak english , communicate with the world, use the oil money to create a media that reaches the west, don't blow yourself up, talk!!Get your message to the world, build websites that shows the west what islam is, just google islam and mohammed and see what you get!!They are winning not because they are smart just because we are stupid..
Build a strong Jordan with people loyal to jordan, then we can grow!!
Am I right? I am here in the US to learn, My blog name is jordan , I will be back, I want to go back to jordan and make a differnce.
DOES ALL OF THAT MAKE ME A RACIST!!
I love jordan And jordan should be FIRST.. And god help all of you when I come back:)
OK. Then my choice to do business with Israel is mine, and mine only you have no right to even think about it OK? And that's the end of that. Don't bring it up again, it's not open for debate.
If US is not Israel, can you explain why do i see the American flag being burned with the Israeli one in any protest specifically the IAF ones.
When we say the IAF it doesn't mean all the people they claim to represent. if you are implying that they are the majority, look at the 88 elections this will show you their real size at best if not even artificially magnified by the multiple votes.
and lets keep at that.
that,s what democracy is all about.
2- 90% of the members are from palastenian origin.
another fals statement.
3- 99% wouldn,t agree.
how you know that.
4- and god help all of you when i come back.
what you gona do kill evry one who disagree with you,most likly you will run out of bullets.
Wa god bless jordan,wa hala 3ami.
Obviously, the question of loyalty often comes from people who consider themselves the real Jordanians, who mostly have to be of eastern origins, and is directed to those of western origins, but the real question that is often avoided is the definition of this loyalty, add to this the obnoxious lack of historical and social information that supplements these kinds of debates.
The cliches are typical and they all circulate around the idea of treason, who ever says/feels/thinks of anything other than being heavenly thankful for living inside modern Jordan is considered a traitor, the idea is very much similar to that in the states after 9/11, but the difference is that it continues to prevail since the year 1970. This mentality shapes the idea of modern Jordanian nationalism. Considering Jordan the center of the universe, the idea of that everyone is jealous and envious of Jordan, and most importantly considering everyone who doesn't abide by those ideas a traitor, are other examples of this ill-understanding of loyalty to this sect of people. Any criticism to ANYTHING is considered an act of disloyalty and treason. The question of loyalty suddenly takes the form of "how much are you willing to give up?", this obnoxious lack of historical and social information portrays the situation in Jordan as if it's an isolated island far away in the ocean and its inhabitants coming from even a further place without any historical backgrounds whatsoever, and the normal feeling of having dual-loyalties to two places that supposedly should have cross interests becomes an act of treason!
Mohannad here gives a shining example, a Phd carrier like owadi al abbadi, I've checked his blog and read through some posts, the guy says he's not racist with the usual smile and apologies yet probably 90% of his posts that I read all has something like Syrians hate us, Iranians, Iraqis, hate, persians, blah blah blah.. in the title, but yet he's not racist! I've read a lot of sickening statements there.
As I said, those debates are extremely exhausting, and practically will never end if one side is not living on earth!
btw Qwaider, you did really present a compelling argument.
Your comment was the best comment.
And this is a debate not a fight..
Don't compare me with abbadi because he is looking for a governmental position, All my statments of loving jordan seem to offend you, and when I defend my country when it is called a desert with a bunch of bedwins is also offending to you..I am not talking about the givernment or the regime, I am talking about jordan as a country and people.
Don't I have the right to defend my country and reveal how much hatred some people have for it? Don't I have the right to defend our right to exist as a country? Isn't jordan being bullied by every country in the world? I ask you sir are you with that? Am I racist for that?
My Ph.D which by the way I am still working on is to help jordan change, to help change the mentalities that people like you have..It is ok for you to be loyal to what ever ideolgy you have but me, I can't because loyalty is now considered racism.
What are the sickening comments tell me?!
samer, i guess u should in a way or two ask ur readers to read ur topics more than once, cuz some ppl seem to jump to conclusion or misundertand what u r talking about or even ur point of view...not first time i noticed it happening...do u agree, dear???
and one more thing, since i know about ahmad awaidi abbadi...and i am not defending anyone here...this guy happens to be mom's doctor's brother...and when he brought up something reg jordanians and palestinians...very racist thing it was as i recall....mom made a remark to her doctor saying:" why is ur brother like that...we palestinians love jordan, so why does he attack us???". the doctor was so embarrassed, cuz he simply not like his brother at ALL...so he said "dunno what is with his brain, he is crazy, we were never brought up this way at home and we donot share his thought!!!"...so i guess this abbadi guy is looking for something else but definitely not being a good jordanina!!! just for sharing....
peace to all....
I slept over some thoughts, Faten: lets say that hate some kind of food, this food makes you sick, it makes you throw up, it could even make you die, does that give you the right to prevent anyone else from eating it?
Omar,
Enjoying your space, you-in-jordan, If I read this right I would assume that you consider jordan to be a space for breathing and eating, it is nothing to be loyal to, maybe you didn't mean that but hell you know me then I know you, right? By comapring me to abbadi I would compare you to arafat of the 70's where he hated jordanians and ordered them killed, again you make assumptions and I make ones too..
Hamede:
The IAF seems to your party of choice..
does it really matter whether IAF exists or not, they are darn good at talking, and being the opposition. when it comes to politics they are tender green, and burn out quicker than dried wheat (was proven btw).
As for democracy in Jordan, do we really wanna see it ? I don't cause it will welcome so much bloodshed, we might as well be welcoming another civil war celebration to the region.
look at it this way, one part is tricked into thinking they own the political side, the other side is tricked into believing they own the economical side. In actuallity the majority own neither !
Whether its 500, a 1000 or whatever i have never seen anything achieved by one party over another, all i hear from their goals are idealistic crap that talks to the heart of 70 year olds, and enthusiasticly niave youngsters.
As for the ones that are nostalgic about home, and believing they could achieve a difference be my guest, try and u will be crushed !
For as long as the aparatheid mentality rules on both sides we will go no where, as for Jordan going on a different route than what its currently on will be catastrophic, since we have to play on all the threads available here to survive. that might piss some idealist hack job politicians, but at the end of the day it maintains stability here.
You have experienced (well for the younger ones i hope u atleast heard enough stories) what it means to have unrest in jordan.
Honestly with the current population u have here I think it will be reduced to sub 3 mil in no time if that happens !
So stop this bullshit and live, you don't like it move, for there is no place that you can call home.
ONLY a place to have a home in !
As for the one who was trying to undermine the role of palestinians in jordan please go read some history of education, business, city planning and every single place that you call Jordan and compare it to lets see ma'an, where else ..... jerash...
You notice a patern here ?
on a different note IAF has the annoying influence in my union, WHY OH WHY does a professional union have a political agenda ? that baffles me, and to make a point i still haven't joined.
I agree to some extent with what you said, but for me I call jordan Home which may seem strange to you(I don't know why). And nobody is trying to undermine the role of jordanians of palastenian origins, and I agree 100% that they had a great role in the modern jordan, but why do some of them have the mentality of "ta7meel el jamayel" , you will that they made us "bani-admeen".
About jerash and maan, they are underdeveloped because all of the resources are being either stolen or spent in amman and the big cities, the people of the rural areas are 10 times smarter that the city ones, look at the tawjeehi results, they have no schools and still they make it. Again I say jordanians from palatenian origins had a great role , but you can't use that to show that jordanian are a bunch of nomad, I am sure if we do some math we will get tha jordanians are more educated(jordanians in general will do anything to educate their children and I am an example, in my family we have doctors and engineers) So please don't blame them blame the corruption for being underdeveloped.
Good day to you.
Mohannad, you seem to be enjoying this ... However, it appears that you're focused on suppressing ALL other voices, be it IAF, Moderate leftist. Only the Monarch loyalist voices speak in your head and as a beneficiary of such a system I really can't blame you for that.
I'm sure there has been subject to some trauma due to your racist upbringing and it shows allover your words. I really have sympathy for you and the poor job your parents have made raising you up. In fear of so many things. People like you fuel the war of separation instead of feed the fire of merging.
You even stated a flat out threat to everyone "God Help all of you when I come back"
For people like you I say, Why don't you thinking of internal NORMALIZATION between the heterogeneous population of Jordan rather than trying to do the normalization with an External entity AGAINST the wishes of the Majority of the people! I am so disappointed in you! You should be ashamed of your self that years of education and being in the west didn't teach you the basics for dealing in a plural polarity society.
You are A racist, and YOU do not represent Jordan, Jordanians, or the King. If anything you brought shame to all of them with your prejudice and hard mindedness. Instead of embracing your nationality, you have discarded and expelled it!
You're acting like the bear that killed her owner out of love. Instead of talking about the common grounds, you are talking about the differences.
Anyway, if you are so keen on following what the prophet did in Madina with the Jews how about advocating what he did when he FIRST arrived there. Merged Mohajireen and Ansar in a Brotherhood. To become one!
Look there is no nation in the world that will be able to achieve anything when there are people like you (to be fair to you, from both sides) that want to see the body split in half. And there are people like me who want to see the body combined, under the leadership of moderation, rationality and common goal.
Think how you can light a candle not how to curse the dark!
Other folks, I'll try to reply soon, I'm so busy these days
Don't even think to talk about my parents, but it seems that you didn't even bother to read my comments
qwaider: Only the Monarch loyalist voices speak in your head and as a beneficiary of such a system I really can't blame you for that.
You are A racist, and YOU do not represent Jordan, Jordanians, or the King.
Contradiction, anyway read my comments first and think and don't speak without using you head..And I am sick of you people attacking my position-by the way the god help you was a joke with a smily face- the ideology that you and your alikes hold are the same but you polish your words. I don't care about your opinion about me. And you don't seem to give credit to any jordanian, people are cursing jordan on your blog and you reply only to me, anyway I am a bedouin as some of you defined us..Thanks for your space and have a good life, and yes sir I will be damn back to jordan and the days are between us..
GOD BLESS JORDAN
You are tented with the skewed image that you grew up with. Your parents are at fault to that (that's not me talking that's my minor in psychology talking). Anyway, facing your demons is a good first step. Try it
Look I don't want to bash you beyond redemption, I'm positive there's hope for you, for ALL OF US if we want to get to a point where we're making progress.
There is no contradiction in what I said about being loyal to something and misrepresenting it. It happens all the time (just look at what IAF are doing and you will see as clear as night and day how they are loyal to ideas that they are misrepresenting)
And yes, May god Bless Jordan. Don't threaten me again Mr PhD-in-training. I might just hold on to this threat, and use it against you when you apply for a job in the government :)
And god help all of you when I come back:)
A joke, Read my comments before you judge, and don't even talk about my parents, because this will open the doors of hell upon you..
Take some time and read my comments, and there is one contradiction in your comment:
You are A racist, and YOU do not represent Jordan, Jordanians, or the King.
Only the Monarch loyalist voices speak in your head and as a beneficiary of such a system I really can't blame you for that.
Weird right, you hate the monarchy but at the same time you like it!!
And yes mr.qwieder I will be back and the days are between us, I am a racist with people like yourself but I am a brother to everyone who loves jordan, Yes I am a racist because I love jordan more than YOU DO, Yes I am a racist for I dont agree with "IAF", yes I am a racist because of people like you and some of the people that post their hatred on you blog.
We wanted a debtae but you created a fight!!I am proud of my parents, I am proud of my country, and you are the shame on jordan because loving jordan is not a priority for you, it comes maybe at the end of the list..
And yes I am loyal to the king because he is smarter than you, YES I am loyal to the regime because It kept us alive(Not the ARAB bank), and YES JORDAN is the center of the world for me-maybe because it is my homeland- which is a term that some are not used to, they bleong to the place they live in, they don't care as long as they are making money, 100Jd in my country is better that 1000000 anywhere else.
As I said it is difficult for you to understand because the term of homeland seems to be missing for some people.
You are the perfect example of people with double standards, once you said it is ok to be gay, but it is not ok to deal with the jews, who are you?are you GOD? you are not GOD, you can't use relegion as a tool, or maybe you wanted to look as a liberal!!You use the ansar and muhajreen as an example, who said I hate palastine, or maybe it is people in oyur head talking!!You can talk about anything but I can't express my love to my counrty, you bring the gayness issue, but I can't bring loyalty issue, maybe it is a part of the taboo that you once posted!!as an advice quit the double standards, oh I forgot, you can't it is in your "BLOOD".
And yes I will be back and the change is in the air, I can smell it from here.I WILL DEFEND MY COUNTRY WITH MY TEETH..THE LAST WORD:MY PARENTS ASHRAF MENNAK YA BALASH A7KI..
have a "GOOD" life, and jordan is not a space it is a country..
As for your argument that Amman is way more developed than other cities because of the Palestinians. It really can be argued booth ways, let’s look at the 10 or so refugee camp or the city of Zarqa, or even closer look at south Amman. The development of Amman is due to it being the capital, therfore the center of booth business and government services and as a natural result it was a magnet for educated professionals Palestinians as well as Jordanians, this the case even before the 48 crises as I can give the name of a lot of families who migrated to Amman before the 1948. At same time I would say some cities Palestine had the same characteristics as my grandfather migrated from Irbid to Nablis in the 1920’s.
The population of Jordan reduced in the sub 3 million. By then the employment rate would drop from 22% to 2% and in economical terms the per capita will increase. How about this argument?
The IAF in your union have been getting to power because of the mentality of people like you who think they shouldn’t even try.
Very interesting way of looking at it. In the most part you are realistically discouraging.:))
Mohanned, the illiteracy rate in Jordan was high in the early years and the Palestinians had a great impact on adding more needed educated people in the early years. However the government policy of scholarships and education assistant had made the shift toward east Jordanians -if there’s any major difference-. For example, “Almukruma almalkia” for the army, I doubt many Palestinians could have provided the same opportunity for their kids. And the same can e applied for people who were sent by the government for higher education it always favored east Jordanians. The reasons are very interesting; like a lot of Palestinians were not allowed in the government and a lot others have been in Gulf States so they were never interested and so forth.
Don’t you think that you are taking it too far? Every body doesn’t have to be loyal to the regime in Jordan In way or another voicing an opinion about something they don’t like in Jordan.
Qwaider,
You are a dreamer. Any way, any luck finding 3akoob? Let me know) and if you find ‘7ubazia too I will be interested.
Don't threaten, and don't accuse people of being disloyal, don't assume that you love the king or Jordan more than anyone else, that is your greatest flaw ... once you realize it you will know how to rally more people to our mutual goal. A better, more progressive, and more prosperous Jordan. May god bless it
Mohannad, I didn't have time to read everyone's comments yet, There are many more to go through. But I'm busy today. And I'll do it tomorrow
you are wrong aggin,the iaf is not my party of choice my choice is to love jordan my way not your,s and i love jordanian and palistinain.
"nobody is trying to undermine the role of jordanians of palastenian origins, and I agree 100% that they had a great role"
So why aren't we taught that, why is it not even properly recognized , why do we hear about Arar and not Touqan ? that is why the people take the ta7meel 2il jamayel attitude.
Hmm i'll leave the education part to firas since he said what i would, on the other hand yes i can pretty much blame them in a way because they moved to amman instead of developing their own villages and cities :D that really has nothing to do with anything.
Look at irbid, 2irsayfeh or zarqa.
Firas:
thanks for the reply, regarding the development i referring to zarqa , salt, and even irbid. compared to the rest ! amman is in a different league.
"By then the employment rate would drop from 22% to 2%" really you think so .... ??
i think it will shoot to 44% because by then. everybody that is capable of moving and establishing them selves in a different country (ppl with money) will leave. the people left don't have enough capitol to generate income so yes the per capita will be decimated especially since we have a vapor thick middle class. so you end up with a hyperinflation actually, alot of super expensive services with no one able to buy them and total halt, then look at the stark difference in gun ownership between the two and project from there :P
As for others like me who don't wanna try, i summarize the cause as such:
"its like the elections at school, you get ur friends to vote for you so u can get the perks of the position. You dont have to do much since at the end of the day its the principal that runs the school"
Am totally fine with that, never voted or wanted a position :D
i guess i should take "realistically discouraging" as a compliment, i just can't really float my dreams very high thats all
phew that was long, thanks for anyone that read it. Don't be discouraged. give it a try, maybe u can reverse the gears !
This is the kind of debate I was looking for, Thank you for your reply, but for me thats it, I would say no more because some people think they have the ability to know who someone is and what he thinks, and I said it once if I had a company I will only hire palastenians because they are hard workers, they helped build jordan and jordan needs loyal people thats all.
God bless jordan.
“on the other hand yes i can pretty much blame them in a way because they moved to amman instead of developing their own villages and cities :D that really has nothing to do with anything. Look at irbid, 2irsayfeh or zarqa.”
Well, I was not trying to blame any body but if I want to use your logic I can blame Palestinians for leaving their country to the Israeli and going to Jordan. PLEASE NOTE: I am not blaming any body I am just using your logic to show a point here. “amman is in a different league.” And this is because of Palestinians ONLY? I strongly disagree and you can read what I have stated earlier.
No I didn’t think that the unemployment would drop I was only showing a point of view. Let me put it this way, business men could care less. As long as they are making money in Jordan they will do more business in Jordan. It doesn’t matter if they are Jordanian, Palestinian or any nationality for that matter. Let’s look at sample of big businesses in Jordan and judge by their behavior [since we can’t know their intentions]. And believe me if something happen it’s not going to be a flat rule so people who are benefiting from Jordan will stay and embrace the regime and the regime will make its best effort to keep them or if they have to they will take it over look at the Arab bank.
I agree with you and I doubt that any thing will change but I will keep trying in my free time. I don’t have any thing to lose.
I guess my point is that it doesn’t matter who is better , who did what or who is more educated as you can convincingly argue booth sides with examples in each side, like you said Arar vs Toquan and if you don’t hear enough about some take it up with the system not with the people…… I doubt you will get any where since the minister of education is Toquan)))))
we are stuck together and we need to learn how to live together. That’s it
take into account that alot of the families here go back with their roots to palestine way before 1948.
that is the idea without stability, Jordan will have no bases for competition.
we are stuck together true, but what we should aim at is to live together rather than sides by side which is what we have been doing