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Who really affected the other?

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Friday, March 23, 2007 8:44:11 PM
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    You know something? I don't really believe in all this horoscope mambo-jumbo, but quite frankly, the more I dig into it, the more I see things that really make sense and kind of a pattern. And I started to wonder, did we influence these character traits that the horoscopes and zodiac signs or did we at some point read them and strives to fit the description That has been laid for us?

    zod

    The horoscopes or Zodiac signs seem to show some resemblance, It's like a periodic table (if you don't know what a periodic table, it's a table of chemical elements that is organized in a way that certain physical and chemical characteristics appear to be repeated in columns)

    So what exactly is happening here? You read about Leo being suited for leadership and somehow see a ton of people of that sign being aggressive and try to really achieve leadership. But who affected the other? That remains a mystery

    I do believe that certain conditions in a person's life does shape their character, we might still not understand the relationship between cosmic rays and generosity for example but I believe in an everything connected universe. Every event driving or is driven by other events.

    So how does all of this fit in the big picture? Well, humans are non-causal, and since this means that they are for the most part unpredictable. The power of suggestion (laid over by someone reading their horoscope sign for them) or their parents reading this stuff when they were young. Or watching something on TV, this power of suggestion might help mold their character responses in a way that causes people from the same sign to act similarly.

    On the negative side as well, when some sign is shown to not get along with another, we as humans tend to manifest this in physical terms and somehow find our self not really liking that person because it said so in the horoscope. (but we don't believe in horoscopes) at least, not on the conscious level ...

    So did we influence it? Or did it influence us?  And I don't dare to pop the real big question, "Is it true?"

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    huh ?! well Up till like 3 months ago i never read, seen or heard anything about my horoscope sign, So ya it didn't influence me.
    the Surprise was that it was eerie reading it, then again its not my luck of the day kind of horoscope.
    btw what is your sign
    to make it clear no it doesn't really influence anyone (except in extreme cases)
    I'm a Libra
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    • Dima
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    • On: 3/23/2007 11:23:08 PM
    I don't believe in horoscopes regarding what would happen in the future like sometimes you'd read in the newspaper 'Geminis: tomorrow you'll find an old friend or whatever nonesense..'
    But I certainly do believe in horoscopes when it comes to main characteristics. I find it 99.9% of the times true.. Geminis are moody, leos are bossy, and so on.. I also think that people of the same horoscope have many things in common like for example the way they react in different circumstances.
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    • On: 3/23/2007 11:41:37 PM
    This is the second time I visit this blog and I found something that really interests me, actually I’m a horoscopic (if there is such a thing), I know all about horoscopes and zodiac, and frankly it’s the most interesting thing you can ever do.
    “So did we influence it? Or did it influence us?”
    Would you be surprised if I told you that it’s both? We influence it and vise versa.
    For example:
    I don’t’ know you dude but let me try to guess based on your horoscope…
    You are a sensitive person, thinks about things too much, you have an airy character (meaning you are MOOOOODYYYYY, even in you relationships), when you have the energy to do something you can spend day and night working on it, but when you are lazy.. THAT’S IT.. You don’t do anything at all, you can lay down all day long doing NOTHING, you love attention (and don’t tell me everybody does, I know I know, but some people more than others.. you know what I mean).
    That was just an example; I don’t want to know how close was I :)
    My point is … its not TOTALLY true but yes.. It’s true.3
    Nice topic, thank you dude.
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    • On: 3/23/2007 11:58:26 PM
    Hi AJ,
    I'm Sagittarius, and I feel that you described me very well! Which makes me wonder. Did you mean that ONLY for Libra?
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    • On: 3/24/2007 12:06:15 AM
    Yes Faten, that was basically Libra and most Airy horoscopes (Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius.
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    • On: 3/24/2007 12:30:24 AM
    Sagittarius or (Qaws) is a fire horoscope, you are very emotional person, but you are not moody in your relationships, it’s true that you don’t give up your hurt easily, but when you do, you love to the limit, you would do any thing for the one you love, but you get hurt, nothing on earth can fix was broken, you love someone to take care of you, but not out of attention by any chance.
    I feel like magie Fara7… any body else (tell me if I’m right about you Faten)
    Ala ono , ala doe, ala trea … OK .. that was just an example for Qwaider nothing more :)
    Hey AJ good one for the libra, just to make it easier for the interested, go here :)
    http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/contents.htm
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    • On: 3/24/2007 2:13:45 AM
    I agree with you. I read it a lot.. but I don't think it is true in any way. We try to make it true to satisfy us. It makes us believe that yes.. since I am a Capricorn I should be a great striving leader. In reality it's not going to happen. Also with compatibility. I don't believe to be compatible or not compatible with someone cause of their zodiac sign. That's just nutz!

    Also if you read more detail about horoscopes. There are also people who are born on a CUSP.. There are people who are ascendants of certain zodiac signs based on the time and birth date. So I am a Capricorn but I was born on a day where Capricorn was ascendant that day and year the day I was born. So that has some weird influence too. It is crazy the amount of detail. In the end. It is just entertainment.. That's all!
    Thanks AJ, I think the first description was closer to my personality than the second one. Maybe your scope needs to be focused or something
    horoscopes are my thing! i have been in love with astrology and astronomy since i was 14! to answer ur question, the effect wasnt made by man, its actually ancient greeks/romans, planets are named after greek/roman gods, and thats where they get their qualities, and as these planets are present and alligned with the sun and moon in certain months, thats how a ruling planet is decided. ya3ni i am a sagittarius, jupiter wud be in perfect allignment with the sun in the time between 23rd of nov til 22nd of dec, which makes it my ruling planet, i take over the qualities of jupiter who was the god of fortune and optimism and energy.

    and for ppl who say that not all libras are the same or all pisces are the same, its true. coz there is an ascendant, which is a moon sign, or what is called in arabic il burj il 6ale3. thats decided by the moon, sun decides the zodiac sign, which is also called a sun sign, but where the moon is allocated in that hour of birth, decides the other signs present in a chart, which makes 12 more different ppl in the same sign. am i clear wila infa3alt zyadeh bil 7adees :D
    well i love astrology! and astronomy :D since i was 14. lemme answer u then :p

    the effect wasnt from man, ancient romans/greeks named planets from their gods, and thats how every planet has the quality of the god its named after, like mars, the god of war, mars rules aries, and u find aries being the most competitive of all, they r tempremental and moody, yet tayoubeen bas when the going gets tuff arians are even tuffer! i am a sagittarius, ruled by jupiter. the god of fortune and wealth and optimism.

    now about the "not every libra is the same as the other or not all caps are the same" its coz of the moon sign, or ascendant, thats decided by the time of birth. where the moon is alligned in an angle of the zodiac chart and it wud be in the home of another sign, thats why there r 12 diff sagis or 12 diff taurans. so in fact, its not 12 signs, its 144. it all depends on the time of birth. not just the day.
    oh and mona: ur diff, ur 1) born on a cusp 2) deffinetly not a pure cap. ur ascendant might be an airy sign or a water sign. i expect it to be a scorp. (what time u born? i'll calculate it for u :D)

    caps are never natural born leaders, usually fire signs are. capricorns in fact are more mellow, yet very hard working, sometimes lose focus but they have a grand goal in life. they get distracted easily but their goal remains the same. they realise it a bit further in their lifespan, but they manage to get to it by their hard work. they r traditional in their taste, not fashion victims, they seek comfort, even in their taste in cars and/or furniture and households, they tend to be very classic. they enjoy the simple things in life and tend to contemplate/meditate very much. they r realistics and they usually are a bit of pessimists who always worry bout plan B.
    am i close?
    lol i am redundant! qwaider please delete the first one, i just repeated myself in the second post :D thanks
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