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hey women out there, peace...no offense, i am a woman too...
I don't think I'm going to get many comments here, this is a very sensitive, touchy feely subject. And many would be shy to anything, especially women
speaking as a guy who just read points one to eleven i would say all of the above...
plus it's a little ridiculous.
especially the parts regarding women lactating, wearing tight clothes and having "dark places"
(good luck with the ladies)
and if this woman for example has a maid and she cleans nothing I am sure she goes regularly to make a body scrub and body massage, manicure and pedicure go to the steam and make facials every time and a while …. With this processes she changes her entire skin !!! and we r still not clean ?!!
Also Allah won’t give us all these responsibilities of (lactate, pregnancy, raising a generations) unless he put the purity in our souls and actions
I think its ridicules and unfair to think this way and don’t let me start with guys and what do they usually do and their purity !
haaaa yaa salaam
too much tesosterone these days Q you need to cool down honey
It's beyond vulgar!
That is right, women do a fantastic job of taking care of themselves and their hygiene. It's truly an amazing effort if you ask me.
Nas:
Apparently you didn't read the rest of the text. And focused on these points. So be it, can you challenge my logic with logic? Instead of ridiculous remarks.
I don't have issues with ladies, learning and trying to understand is not a sin. Presenting ideas logically is not wrong.
Please try to add more value next time, I know you could if you wanted to
Shaden:
Would you please point out what exactly you think is inappropriate or wrong? Correct my thoughts instead of condemning me. Be logical and resort to proof, instead of drive by commenting. Help me see the other side.
Simsim:
True, women do clean themselves way more than men, or at least this is what I noticed. And that's very commendable
I'm not sure body scrubs and Massages, manicure, pedicure qualify as cleaning processes. If anything you're introducing more chemicals and foreign items to your skin and body.
Purity of soul and Actions don't really translate to less germs. It's totally unrelated.
Now why is this ridiculous or unfair? If a woman lactates that area is more prone to infection than lets say a male nipple that doesn't lactate. Which means that women need to take extra steps and more care to rid themselves from germs, right?
Manal y:
I don't stress over these matters much, I seek knowledge, and enlightenment.
Now here's the first logical argument of the day. Male parts are mostly exposed outwards therefore it's hard for them to get damp, in addition to the fact that the skin around them is sealed. In the case of women, there are areas are the opposite.
Hair removal exposes the body to either chemicals or foreign objects that may be contaminated. But you know what? Men shave their beards on a regular basis. So I'll give you this one. (and I'll update the list) Thanks for your hint here.
As for my testosterone, I'll take that as a complement. Thank you
Aya:
This is not about comparing, it's about male and female understanding each other. It's not about making women think BAD of themselves that they have these things. It's about allowing them to think GOOD and appreciated for all the hard work they do to maintain their cleanliness!
It's about showing that these things that are part of the woman's body don't make any difference in the way people like me think of women
Iman:
As an educator, is this the best you could come up with? Manal above gave couple of logical responses and one was valid. On the other hand, the master's degree holder just came back with a weak response... "vulgar"
Your comment is pathetic! Come back with something that's worth it. Challenge these ideas, instead of this pedestrian, meaningless comment
RedRose:
True, it's how people take care of themselves. But what I stated are possibly trouble points.
The title is there along the same line of Amal's title, but I wanted it to be provocative. I think it's serving it's job :)
Well, you're right, personal hygiene is personal. It's every person's duty to maintain it. The piece of information from BBC, concluded that women's desks are germier, while men's wallets are the worst
Also, I really didn't get point 6 - about a cycle forcing sensitive parts of our body to be exposed to external elements??
How is an ability to lactate proof that we carry more germs, as opposed to say, ejaculation??
Men don't wear wigs or toupees??
Are kids and babies lumps of germs???
... and hair removal?? Seriously, is that really meant to support your argument??
With regard to your reply to Simsim: Why wouldn't exfoliating and manicuring qualify as a cleaning process?? I mean using that same logic (that it introduces chemicals & foreign items to your body), then we shouldn't use soap when we shower nor shampoo to clean our hair. There are harmful chemicals and beneficial chemicals, the same way there is good bacteria and bad bacteria, it's very misleading to generalise that way.
With regard to your reply to Manal y: Again the chemicals & foreign items are used for hygiene purposes - you can't classify all chemicals as filthy.
With regard to male parts being naturally cleaner - unless they are meticulous about their hygiene, men who aren't circumcised don't have their parts fully exposed and will therefore also have "dark and damp" places for bacteria to roam (especially since the majority of men, whether circumcised or not, don't wash themselves after they pee!!).
First, the above thoughts are not related to the study but rather for my logical reasoning. Maybe I can correct them or you can refute some of them. for the sake of the greater good
The point of the original article by Amal was to show the history of companies promoting female hygiene products. It had the same title.
As for point 6, I didn't want to get into too much details about female period. So I thought eluding to it might be enough. I don't want to be too graphic about it
-Lactating, provides a warm, damp location that if left as is, might get infected. Therefor it might be considered a location for germs. Women appear to be really amazing at taking care of sensitive parts of their body in a way to counter these effects (and I commend them)
As for ejaculation, the interesting part is that it usually doesn't remain close to the body.
-Men do, but in general women do more of these
-Kids and babies appear to get contaminated easily because they're always too close to areas that might have germs. Or play outside in the dirt and mud.
Rihab#2: (thanks for coming back again, I appreciate it)
Exfoliating and manicuring introduce elements to the skin, in addition they might scratch the skin causing irritation and providing more locations for germs. Let alone introducing harmful chemicals at times.
Now shampoos and soups (in general) are not as harmful or cause skin irritations if not used excessively. They do help maintain our level of germs low and our bodies smelling nice and clean
Some chemicals are harmful as you know, and the long term effects are not known, as you know when in doubt, return to nature
Now I never said male parts are naturally cleaner. They're just out and exposed. But you know something? I didn't remember the circumcised argument. Very good catch indeed, I totally forgot about it
But don't we both agree that the areas we're talking about vary in multiple magnitudes.
Iman:
You really disappoint me! But it's alright ... I shouldn't have expected much. My bad
Hamzeh:
Thanks for passing by, but I would have loved it if you stated some opinions about this
no one's saying it's a sin to learn so there's no need to play the victim, but when you dictate in such a manner and throw around the word "logical", as if any counter argument to your claim would thus be illogical by default, you remove it from the framework of the desire to learn and into the depths of universal common knowledge that the rest of us are just too dumb to understand.
and here's the thing...simply calling your argument 'logical'...doesn't make it logical.
moreover, yes i read the whole post. when people, myself included, fail to see the logic in your posts please don't accuse them of not reading it, which is like saying they didn't understand it. as if the complexities of the female anatomy render us instantaneously unconscious at their mere mention.
the reason i focused on the points as you accuse me of doing is because you called attention to it by essentially saying 'this is why i think women are dirtier than men...'. in other words those points were your central argument, your main thesis, and if the logic you claimed to have provided is anywhere to be found in that post, the summary of your key points that explain why you believe what you've come to believe can be found solely in those points. (emphasis on 'if')
but when someone starts off a 'logical' list with essentially: 'women are dirtier than men because they have dark, warm and damp places', well that just defies the modern boundaries of logic.
You forgot that women who wear the veil have more ares to cover and it does get hot and humid there. Let alone women who wear Niqab which might even be worse because they eat under that stuff
You know, I think women are amazing because they're able to remain clean with all these things
Great post Quwaader
Women always smell nice and look nice. And it IS hard work. It's not fair to say that we are dirtier, we are not.
You guys make me sick, most guys smell and neglect their hygiene and have bad breath. Ewww!
Does this make you as a man feel turned off? I would be interested to know
When I say logical, I mean give me a logical proof or ANYTHING to challenge it. Don't try to get it out of context and reflect this on my understanding of things.
I'm not being a victim here, I'm searching and continuously seeking more knowledge, and the only way to get it is through presenting my ideas and allow people to challenge them. When that happens I gain a lot more
And please stop saying "You" and focus on the ideas presented. You're being personal in your ideas and I wonder why. I was hoping for more objectivity from you.
Simply calling my idea logical, doesn't make it logical, but I deduced this idea, what have you done to challenge it other than refocusing the matter to my opinions?
Some people HAVE seen the logic and have challenged some ideas AND WON, I'm man enough to go back on ideas that I find wrong.
I like how you said "posts" in plural. I'm interested to know what exactly provokes you to brand all my posts as mediocre, while you almighty post nothing but great quality stuff. You really amused me with that and if anything, I learned something new about you.
When I say to someone "read it again" because they totally missed my point, I have every right to. It doesn't mean they are Stupid (although that is a possibility)
Please don't lie and put words in my mouth, I have never say "this is why I think women are dirtier..." in fact, I didn't say the word dirtier except in Negation in the whole article. Double check if you like. Now do I have the right to say "READ IT AGAIN"? I never said it or eluded to it. My ideas were focused on germs and where they can exist more. Does this make them dirty? I'll leave that to you
I didn't say Believe either, I said I "think" therefore, this may or may not be true in addition to the fact that this is a great opportunity to really help others see areas that might be of concern. Also an opportunity to commend women on a fantastic job in maintaining all of this despite all the odds
You didn't say a single thing that is logical, it's merely your point of view that is completely flawed and juvenile if I presume you have good intentions. Please do come back when/IF you grow up, and know how to carry on a civilized conversation
Sorry to put it so bluntly but I agree with the rest of people that opposed your flawed logic.However, the reason for my opposition slightly differs than theirs. My reason has to do with the lack of scientific evidence on your part supporting your claims. If you can refer me to a scientific proof then I'll believe you, otherwise, the whole argument can be summed up with way Red Rose replied to you : Soap and water is the best preventive measure against the spread of any germs, so if anyone showers or washes up on a daily basis or twice a day, then there is no reason why they should be less sanitary than the person sitting to them.
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Sami Masoud
Thanks for your interesting idea, I will add that. Much appreciated. And yes that's absolutely right. Women do a fantastic Job at keeping clean. And this is a true generalization. The majority of women do that
Dima S
Haven't seen you in a while, welcome back;
That's EXACTLY one of the results of what I'm saying, women spend a lot of time taking care of these things and they do a FANTASTIC job at it. Most men on the other hand don't and I think we should learn from women in this area
Suha Abweh
Yes, that's right, mother's milk is naturally cooled/warmed/disinfected it's amazing and contains everything a baby needs.
Now regarding your question, the answer is, maybe. If the lady looks and smells dirty that might be a turn off, not only for me but for many people. Don't you think? But I've hardly seen any women that are that don't take care of themselves, On the other hand, I have seen men who really smell and don't take care of their hygiene and way more than women
lool you're relentless. if there's something i dont understand about logic it's probably your own definition of it.
"You're being personal in your ideas and I wonder why. I was hoping for more objectivity from you."
objectivity? what is this a science conference? it's a blog last time i checked and your posts are of a personal perspective hence my comments and everyone elses' is from a personal perspective.
"Some people HAVE seen the logic and have challenged some ideas AND WON, I'm man enough to go back on ideas that I find wrong"
was their a prize or a contest? seriously, if you're getting in this just to win and/or lose arguments then you i definitely have different definitions of what it means to challenge an idea and what knowledge really is.
"you to brand all my posts as mediocre, while you almighty post nothing but great quality stuff. "
great deducing! no where did i say "all" of your posts or that they were even mediocre. the word "post" became pluralized in the fourth paragraph because i was making a broad statement hence the grammatical requirement for a plural. i don't know where you drew your conclusions so i can deduce myself that you either misunderstood that part or your having your own little crisis of confidence. Allahu a3lam
"When I say to someone "read it again" because they totally missed my point, I have every right to. It doesn't mean they are Stupid (although that is a possibility)"
then i as the reader have the right to say i understood your post but saw no logic in it
"Please don't lie and put words in my mouth, I have never say "
Don't accuse me of doing something I didn't do. I never said you said anything, none of the above were direct quotes which is why I used the word "essentially" before each one to imply directly that the phrase to follow is a paraphrasing of what you said. to directly quote is to do the following:
"I never said it or eluded to it. My ideas were focused on germs and where they can exist more. Does this make them dirty? I'll leave that to you"
qwaider, what's the title of your post?
"You didn't say a single thing that is logical, it's merely your point of view that is completely flawed and juvenile if I presume you have good intentions. Please do come back when/IF you grow up, and know how to carry on a civilized conversation"
Ah Well suffice to say you've been a model of civility in this exchange but more importantly: pointing out as a reader that your post contains illogical conclusions based on illogical evidence is not an act of a juvenile.
(p.s. don't worry about your last paragraph, i know you ran out of things to say and decided to bait me into an argument about how i'm launching a character attack on you. but who knows, it might work on someone else so you know, keep that one in your pocket)
Anyway, Thanks Hatem, that is a great response, and I totally agree with you on it. Now I just don't see it as being opposite to what I'm saying.
I said it's logical, I don't have a way to back it up other than common sense. So you can take it at face value or provide some logical challenge (like I have updated above) thanks for some real good comments.
I'm Really excited that many of the norms have been challenged here. I think many people thought of these as givens and they turned out not to be so!
There is some contradiction in your points. Mainly between 3 and 10. In 3 you argue that hair is a problem. In 10 you argue that removing hair is a problem. What you're talking about in "removing hair from sensetive places" doesn't really introduce any more germs than the continuing presence of hair would prevent from getting rid of. The only thing that hair removal would do in those areas is introduce the possibility of having those areas inflamed because they are sensetive. In the end, removing hair actually helps keep things clean. This is why women remove the hair under their armpits while men only shorten it if not shave it all too. Because it keeps that area cleaner and prevents more sweating.
Also, men also have "dark and damp" places, and on average, I wouldn't be surprised if it were found that men sweat more than women, which would mean that men actually are dirtier.
How many men do bikini waxing? Hmmm. How many men use toilet paper after urinating? How many men think it's cool to lay a fart when they're with their friends? What does this say about men's average hygiene?
If you were talking about a hypothetical situation in which we run an expirement and put two bodies, one of a man and one of a woman in two identical rooms and leave them for a period of 6 months while feeding them the same food and not allowing them to interfere with their own personal hygene, and then see which one ends up with more germs, then maybe, maybe women will have more germs across multiple trials of the expirement. But that is simply not something that adds any value to our collective knowledge, because in the end, I believe personal hygiene is much more affected by behavior than one's biological make up and if I had to bet my money when it comes to behavior, I would put all my money on women.
N: "lool you're relentless. if there's something i dont understand about logic it's probably your own definition of it. "
Your ignorance is not my problem
N:"objectivity? what is this a science conference? it's a blog last time i checked and your posts are of a personal perspective hence my comments and everyone elses' is from a personal perspective. "
You're not tackling the issues, and getting personal on the issues. These are thoughts not necessarily of personal nature. But when discussing an issue, I think sticking to the point is the LOGICAL way to deal with it
N:"was their a prize or a contest? seriously, if you're getting in this just to win and/or lose arguments then you i definitely have different definitions of what it means to challenge an idea and what knowledge really is."
You have your own ideas on how to reach some knowledge, I have my own ideas. My prize was hearing and understanding from different points of views. What did YOU win?
Alright, I'll give you the "Post" vs "posts" you have the right to think what ever you want of my posts. I'm sorry I even objected the first time
N:"then i as the reader have the right to say i understood your post but saw no logic in it"
Sure, but there is a lot of logic in there and you not seeing it is your problem
You drew the wrong conclusion and tried to pass it as my words. I have every right to respond to that the way I did. Because it's basically putting words in my mouth. Asserting your conclusions as mine
The title is borrowed from Amal's title, I kept it like that because it's along the same lines. So as it appears you were at some point judging the whole matter by it's title. Even though I negated it, even though I showed that it's not about that ... you still went ahead and based it all on the title... And you call me illogical
You're the only person who tried to turn this to a personal matter and that's warranted my response. If you want to turn this to a personal matter, you're going to be wasting my time and yours
Yeah, the force is strong with you, do you think I care to even bother with trivialities like that? I mentioned it to help you self correct and go back to the points at hand.
In 3: Longer hair might cling to more dirt and germs.
Hair removal is also an issue, because it does cause skin irritations and breakups that might allow germs to infest that area
So these are two different things, that are not really related, although they're both about hair. Same goes for point 12 from Sami
At any rate, your concern is noted and I have had both scratched out as per Manal's words
Removing hair does help in cleaning up things. I totally agree. Sweating is unrelated to hair much. But once the skin perspires, hair might become sticky and cause issues. In such cases both sexes are equal
I'm not sure there were ever any study that shows a relation between gender and sweat. But I'm positive someone is going to find a way to make it a female oppression topic IF there was a difference
LOL: I love the part about Bikini waxing and fart parties :) But I find it unrelated to .. don't you? because: Women fart too, most guys never wipe anything after they urinate :)
I love that trial, but maybe we can do it over the period of 24 hours. Not more. I would love to see some people actually trying it out.
I totally agree about your statement that " I believe personal hygiene is much more affected by behavior than one's biological make up and if I had to bet my money when it comes to behavior, I would put all my money on women." And I would bet on women too :)
lol well now you're just name calling. unless, wait a sec, are you trying to uphold the model of civility we talked about earlier? my bad, i should've got that.
"You're not tackling the issues, and getting personal on the issues. These are thoughts not necessarily of personal nature. But when discussing an issue, I think sticking to the point is the LOGICAL way to deal with it"
i did. i said your points were illogical. your points are the issue. hence im sticking to them.
if i wanted to take the ILLOGICAL route I would call you ignorant and then tell you how it's not my problem
"What did YOU win?"
again...i'm not certain what we're supposed to be winning here. is this a contest of some sort? does it involve i attend a time share seminar?
"Sure, but there is a lot of logic in there and you not seeing it is your problem"
well actually it's not a problem for me at all. in fact it's not a 'problem', it's an opinion. last time i checked i as a reader am entitled to one of those.
"And you call me illogical"
qwaider, bro, take a deep breath...the title of your post IS actually your very conclusion. you even went point by point to tell us how you arrived at such a conclusion!
"You're the only person who tried to turn this to a personal matter and that's warranted my response. If you want to turn this to a personal matter, you're going to be wasting my time and yours"
lol how am i turning this into a personal matter? i didn't attack you or your character or anyone you know or anyone related to you. i simply put forth my opinion regarding your post, which is that i find it illogical.
you seem to haven taken offense at either my opinion or my bluntness but im guessing the latter because the majority found your post void of logic as well.
lastly, just to respond to something you said initially which is: "I don't have issues with ladies"
...yeah i wasn't saying you had "issues with ladies" (maybe you do, maybe you don't but that's none of my business) i said "good luck with the ladies" which is a colloquial way of way of saying i expect a lot of them to voice their disagreements with you regarding your post.
which they did.
As for Nas, He did, but you are
blindinsisting to see only one sideI wonder why are you being
so closed minded andridged about this? if I feel certain level of offensive language, I feel that because It does exist. Not because it doesn't existYou with all due respect failed miserably to say anything, and resort
to thesechildish attemptsto undermine what I say, instead of focusing on the issue and coming up with any responses like many have already doneI suggest for once you reconsidered
your childishresponses and reply with something tangible.You see things through your views, I see them through mine, I find your opinions of me condescending and you find mine of you condescending. You fail to add value to anything but bicker about it.
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I'm keeping the original text, but apologize for it. I didn't want it to be that sharp. But I guess I failed there. So I'm sorry. This will never happen again
I wonder why are you being so closed minded and ridged about this? if I feel certain level of offensive language, I feel that because It does exist. Not because it doesn't exist"
I'm not sure if your talking to me or about me. in short i said nothing that was offensive to your person.
"You with all due respect failed miserably to say anything, and resort to these childish attempts to undermine what I say, instead of focusing on the issue and coming up with any responses like many have already done"
I haven't resorted to anything and i had no desire nor inclination to prove or win anything. I gave you my initial opinion regarding your conclusion and the points you used to reach them. I don't see anything wrong with that nor anything offensive about it.
"I suggest for once you reconsidered your childish responses and reply with something tangible."
ok given that you're in danger of over using the metaphor let's apply an earlier rule: by simply calling, if not insisting, that I'm being childish does not make me childish nor anything I'm saying childish.
so how about you put that name calling gun back in it's holster cowboy because you're really not baiting me into that street brawl ;-)
"You see things through your views, I see them through mine, I find your opinions of me condescending and you find mine of you condescending. You fail to add value to anything but bicker about it."
lol well thank you for making up my mind and telling me that i find you condescending.
i do however agree with you that we see things differently and there's nothing wrong with that. as for bickering and adding no value...again i'm not getting into a street brawl with you where we exchange, infantile, terms.
You started, therefore you should be able to tolerate the results. A little personal = a lot personal in my book. Notice that "Your ignorance is not my problem" was localized to the part where you said that you didn't understand my definition of logic, what would you call it? No really, that wasn't a question
Yes, and I am trying to, despite all your attempts, especially while you're polluting everything and the ideas of people who are actually trying to have a decent exchange of ideas here! Sorry you're being stomped, it's not your day
Call me ignorant or not, that's not the point here. ME is not THE POINT, einstein
That wasn't a question NAS... It really wasn't a question despite the question mark at the end.
This is not a contest, it's not a shouting contest, it's not about you vs me, it's about some point that you're completely deviating from
--And just for the record, time share is the biggest gimmick in the world. Although this is unrelated
Yes, you're entitled to have an opinion, and I do respect it when it's related to the subject being discussed. But converting it to me is not the way to go by it
The title of the post is the conclusion that I took from Amal, not mine. Mine is not about the title...
"Ridiculous".... "Logic, I love the way you use the word" ... do these ring any bells?
I didn't take offensive of your bluntness, I actually love that, and encourage you to maintain it. But rather recommend that you keep your personal opinions regarding people and how they think to your self and focusing on the matter at hand
I don't share your ideas about "the majority" that you speak of.
With the two exceptions of Shaden and Iman, I didn't see any ladies responding violently. There might be more, but every single response was an eye opener for me and helped me get to better conclusions... That I found to be very valuable
And although I try to be tolerant and respect every one's opinion. when it's about the matter we're discussing not the people discussing them!
so all this to get an answer .... !!!! Wow man sometimes as they say bta3mel men al 7abeh oybeh ...
يعني بصراحة و الله ما استفدت من موضوعك شي ولا حتى استمتعت فيه , بس فهمني شغلة وحدة كل هل الحكي يلي هون هلا , انا شو بستفيد منو ؟؟ شو المعلومة الجديدة يلي عطاني ياها ؟ منطق ولا اثارة , ولا مدري شو ....
عطيني فائدة واحدة بس من كل يلي كتبته و كل الحكي يلي ردو عليك ؟؟ بما أنو مبني على بحث ...
يعني ما الدروس والعبر المستفادة من كلامك ؟
بحترم شو بتكتب و بحترم رايك , بس لما يكون في فائدة و معلومة بإدر استخدمها بحياتي , يعني نولج معرفة .ايجابية , محفزة....
يلا , تصبحو على خير
Boys ... boys ... calm down .. and just shut up! Both of you
the title of the post is "women are dirtier than men" which is a conclusive statement.
you then rephrased it in the form of a question and in your post you said: "My logical answer is yes, I think they do carry more germs.", which brings us back to the initial title of the post. it doesnt matter who used it first, it matters that you chose to use it.
"I didn't see any ladies responding violently"
once again you're putting words in my mouth so i'm just going to start quoting myself from earlier on: "i said "good luck with the ladies" which is a colloquial way of way of saying i expect a lot of them to voice their disagreements with you regarding your post."
i didnt say they would react violently. it helps your argument when you don't make things up.
""Ridiculous".... "Logic, I love the way you use the word" ... do these ring any bells?"
even though i still find many if not all of the points you presented to support your conclusion as ridiculous i do see how you found that offensive despite the fact that i should point out i CLEARLY was not calling you ridiculous, and so i'll say that was a bad choice of words on my part, so my bad.
Good stuff, with one correction. The human body doesn't generate germs
Faten:
You're right, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have got carried away...
قباني يا حبيبي الفكرة انه احنا نتعرف سوا على اشياء نستفيد منها في حياتنا. مو شرط المعرفة تنفعنا على طول لكن بتعلمنا نقدّر اشياء كتير في حياتنا ممكن ما بنهتم فيها كتير
Go ahead, think what ever you want. If you have something to add, I would happily take it and update the post. If you don't. Then thank you for taking all this time out of your busy day to argue
(sorry Faten and all)
lol oh wow man what a revelation, the planet really doesn't revolve around me. see i was confused because i figured when you used my name that i was being addressed.
but sure, spread your love :-)
i got a strong sense of deja vu just now.
"If you don't. Then thank you for taking all this time out of your busy day to argue"
yeah sure, if you like you can remove the word "ridiculous" from my initial comment as i think thats primarily what you found "offensive" and in any case the point was trying to make was clear enough.
that would balance the planets out
according to my last post i gave you the freedom to delete the word ridiculous from my initial post so as to resolve any feelings of being offended that you might have.
i'm being serious. you can laugh while editing it if that would make you feel better?
مممم حلو .... ميرسي ... بس مع هيك والله ما فهمت شي ههههههههههههههههه ...
ولا التلي شو استفيد , يعني افرح انو الشباب بحملو جراثيم اقل من البنات !!!! وعرفت هاد الشي ؟ و بعدين ؟؟؟ الكل بيعرف انه البنات بعتنو بحالهن اكتر من الشباب , و لا تخاف عليهم و انته بتعرفه انه يلي بقرا البلوجز مو صغار , و ما بظن في داعي لفتح هيك موضوع , و نقاش طويل , اخرتو كل واحد مقتنع برأي و كل واحد مشاء الله عقلو بوزن بلد و عندو قناعات خاصة
وهيك موضوع بصراحة ما بخلي أمي تقرأة ... لأنه و الله مو حلو بنوب افترض هي شو اسمو اصغر بولجر بالأردن دينا دونو قرأت موضوعك ؟؟ شو بدها تروح تسئل امها انه شو قصدو و ليش و عنجد و بصير و و ..... يعني مالو طعمة
بحب كون صريح معك , متل ما انته صريح معي
Manal Y.
I'll remove it. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to embarass you. I thought it's fine because I didn't mention the content.
I'm so sorry. I didn't realize that there was a question in there. So I'll take care of it now
قباني: والله حاولت قدر استطاعتي اني اكون محايد و حتى لو امي او بنت اختي اللي عمرها 13 سنة قرأته ما يسبب احراج
لكن معك حق
*Shaking head*
Look at the bright side.
This post has generated alot of traffic.LOL
Qwaider, ma tel3ab bel nar, bte7re2 sabee3ak! (who plays with fire, might get burnt).
I guess that you tried to be slightly provocative in your post, but it got out of hand with people going slightly mad when you implied that woman can be dirtier than men.
I don't like the way some responded to you, especially Nas, but this is something that you can both solve between yourselves.
You have came up with some points that worth thinking of, it doesn't mean that women are dirtier than men, I don't think that you said that. You just asked it. Your points may only prove that women's bodies have the potential to carry more germs than men's bodies which can be true. But we all know, from personal experience, that in general, women do care more about their personal hygene (at least in this part of the world!)
Now I guess that I should learn a lesson here. Next time I think of having a provocative post, I will think TWICE before publishing it :P ;)
For the cute dumb people out there, Logical means a statement might be true or false. It doesn't guarantee accuracy. And that's the bases of scientific investigation.
If something isn't even logical to begin with, there is no need to pursue it. A statement like. The sun doesn't exist therefore it doesn't rise from the east is logically flawed. If it didn't exist why would anyone want to even prove or disprove it?
But a statement like:
Veiled women might have more germs under their veil is a valid one (it's logical, the veil is there, the under it is there, the germs may or may not be there a simple scientific "swab test" will prove this or disprove in a specific sample)
My logic (as a veiled woman) is that although veil does cover up and cause some discomfort due warm and possibly damp conditions. It does on the other hand provide protection from the elements and airborne germs and therefore might not be a location where germs could thrive.
Plausible? Maybe
Logical? You bet you ass it is!
Now get off my screen, and let me get back to my research!
my muslim brothers and sisters i kinda like the challenge here but pls WATCH OUT THE LANGUAGES THAT U GUYS USE.its kilittle unprofessional.hayyakallah.
You're a little bit late here. But allow me to say, this Tara that you talk of. Is better than many people I know
Kindly read the article again, it's not AGAINST women, it's discussing the findings of a scientific experiment.
Then take some time and read some of the comments with people's take on it
we have to respect the women as she is mother sister wife and doughter for me those are the most people i ever loved
the title is not fair at all as a muslem i respect my mother 3 times more than fother as the profet mohamed said امك ثم امك ثم امك ثم ابيك
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