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« Catch a Fire (2006)More arab Bloggers voice thier frustration »

Welcome to Wireless@SG

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Friday, October 13, 2006 8:58:20 AM
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    While the Arab world is in a heated race to block sites and services like Skype (as mentioned here), the rest of the world is in a totally different game altogether

    The Singaporean government, decided to embark on a huge challenge to cover the whole island in free 512 Kbs Wireless connections. Raising the number of hot-spots from 900 to 5,000

    It's the government vision that Singaporean should be allowed access to the Internet and technologies in order to modernise it's population even further.

    The huge project is scheduled to have some traction by as early as next year with the collaboration of 3 major providers in association with the government.

    The first city in the world to be fully WIFI covered was Zamora, Spain. Where people could enjoy WIFI coverage anywhere they went, many cities followed, Half-moon bay, CA and Grand Haven MI and others.

    Google has also embarked on a similar effort in the San francisco area, but results remain to be seen.

    When I read this kind of news I can't but feel sorry for the situation of the poor Arab Internet user paying in excess of $30 a month for basic Internet DSL access (Greater than 10% of many families monthly income)

    I can't help but wonder, when will people realise the services should be provided to everyone, everywhere, anytime if the countries "really" seek to develop. We can't expect more of people if we can't treat them with the dignity that they deserve

    Good luck Jordan

    On a little note, Apparently Skype protocol posses an issue for many countries due to the fact that it's fully encrypted therefore, it would be hard to "really" and "fully" block it. With that hint, I hope people in Jordan realize that the ban on Skype, will not hold...

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    • #1
    • Hayati
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 10/13/2006 9:45:54 AM
    Funny,i've been waiting for months for the damn company to give me the damn dsl thing and they say ..the central stations  are being fully equiped..so..even paying won't do because we are way behind..
    but about skype..i hate it..it's the nastiest messenger ever..o.k i know it's good in connections and all that..but really..a friend of mine nagged me to install it and since then i can't stop all the nasty photos and invitations that rain on my screen..and the silly thing..she never called me.
    allah yesma3 menak:)
    • #2
    • Moe
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 10/13/2006 12:12:17 PM
    Qwaider,

    WiFi is a thing of the past now. WiMAX will replace it by year end. Whole cities have been WiMAXed in the UK including Brighton and Kent!
    Moe, Sorry buddy but WiMax is Wireless WAN technology while WIFI is wireless LAN.
    The differences are not much, but the cost is Huge. Especially the running cost
    WiMax is more suitable for Last mile kind of situations (replacement for Cable or DSL for example) where you want to connect couple of NETWORKS together, the power usage is just too large to be useful for the cheap tried and tested WIFI
    You might be interested to know that these WIFI hotspots MAY be connected to each other using WiMax
    • #4
    • Moe
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 10/13/2006 12:49:20 PM
    Qwaider sorry buddy u got it wrong; anyway here goes: WiMAX could beam up to 50 Kms (non-LOS) in optimal conditions while WiFi only beams a fraction of that.

    Explain exactly how is it cheaper to deploy and maintain 5000 WiFi units than less manpower and unit consuming WiMAX based solution.

    I think what you mean when u said that WiFi could be connected using WiMAX is Mesh or Canopy technology. I have seen meshing but never heard of WiFis being meshed or WiMAXed!
    Moe, you're absolutely right, WiMAX range is staggering up to 50Km, however effectively in our tests we barely had much behind 6Miles (10Km) with a modest throughput of around 2MB/s
    Wifi is limited to around 300FT and sometimes with way more expensive AP's it would barely get around 500.
    The prices of AP's have dropped considerably, putting the whole 5000 APs in the modest range of 2.5Million dollars, while 1 WiMax tower would be in the range in excess of 400,000$ which can handle .. few hundreds to few thousands depending on the kind
    So, with that in mind, the price of Wifi (APs) is totally nothing compared to WiMax.
    Now the cost for consumers. A WiFi USB adapter can be obtained for something in the range of $5. Compared to GPRS or EDGE which is +$300. Think if it was WiMax, it would skyrocket the price making it inaccessible to the masses

    Now comes the issue of Power consumption. Transmitting 57Mb/s 802.11g 20mw means you have more power for your battery powered device, whereas transmitting to a 50Km away station will require a HUGE amount of power ... WAY MORE than what your cell, PDA or laptop can afford (15 miles need 1W which is 50 times more than wifi which is already horrible on batteries)

    Anyway, WiMax is a FANTASTIC technology and using it might be the silver bullet, yet, the standard needs to stabilize, implementations get bake time to take care of the bugs and the price dropped down before it can be rolled out main stream, while WiFI has become way more stable over the past years.

    Finally, The concept of wan is like connecting islands of LANs together, especially when there is no Fiber or wired infrastructure available like in 3rd world countries

    Again, don't get me wrong, WiMax is fantastic, if you can enable it country wide efficiently, drive the cost down, and implement it as much devices as Wifi then by all means
    • #6
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 10/13/2006 2:11:58 PM
    skype isnt blocked abymore
    Only after they discovered it's useless to try and block it... :)
    • #8
    • Moe
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 10/13/2006 2:25:31 PM
    Qwaider,

    I don't understand how the terminal's batteries bear the power when they receive signal? What is the logic behind this.

    Trials have shown that WiMAX practically could reach to levels close to their theoritical publizcised ranges. Check out case studies by Motorola and Alvarion and you will know what I'm talking about.
    One important thing that WiMAX offers over WiFi is the fact that it is mainly used in licensed bands (3.4-3.6 GHz and in the 5GHz band in MENA) thus limiting inteference and jamming (depending on radio threshold provided by regulator).

    Intel promised WiMAX ready chipsets suitable for commercial use by H2-2006.
    I really think there's much to be made out of WiMAX specially after seeing countries with internet penetration less than 20% like Pakistan deploying country-wide amongst other mid and high-tech countries like Macedonia, and the States.
    Moe,
    If it takes x to transmit a signal 300ft, then it should take x*x*x to send it 600ft, extrapolate to 50km and you will get this

    Yes, many companies have promised to proved WiMax devices, but it will reach the price point of WiFi (almost 0 for embedded devices) in the next 4 years (according to Intel, you can double check if you like)

    WiFi has just reached the sweet-spot of it's adoption, and WiMax still has a long way to go.

    Again, Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying WiMax is bad or that it's not superior to WiFi for long range and what not, but lack of device support, price, power concerns and many other factors WILL delay if not kill the whole effort especially with competing technologies like UWB and what not

    Early adopters, will pay a hefty price, and in countries like the US these face a HUGE opposition from the cable companies with their huge infrastructures

    The wireless spectrum will see a HUGE amount of growth and change (as has been the case over the past 7 years) with all the alphabet soup they're introducing for every standards, and non-compatible implementations by almost all manufacturers.

    SG decided to go with WiFi after careful study, I had no say in it :)
    • #11
    • Moey
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 10/13/2006 8:44:35 PM
    Qwaider, I whisbareeeeeeed
    I know, and check your blog, I answered :)
    Moey, Hold your pants ....
    Hey all , for the first time i feel the bloggers community played its strong role to stop blocking Skyoe , this solidarity is great example of the Jordan bloggers movement in the right track
    Hey all , for the first time i feel the bloggers community played its strong role to stop blocking Skyoe , this solidarity is great example of the Jordan bloggers movement in the right track
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