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Israel's new advanced weapons

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:54:16 PM
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    Rami is wondering about new weapons being used against civilians. I saw a documentary about such a weapon, here's how it works

    sensorf

     There are these new types of mini-bomb-lets that are similar to cluster bombs, but the difference lies in that they way they operate is by exploding and converting a mas off copper into molten copper that jets towards the victims at over 2800 feet/second.

    These weapons can shred cars and limbs. Without leaving shrapnel and at the same time they are armour piercing.

    With such a lethal momentum, even the air around the trajectory of the molten copper is so hot that it would damage living tissue in such deep burns and wounds in the flesh that the doctors are describing

    These weapons are relatively cheap to manufacture and ware designed to attack ground troops. Sadly they're currently being used against civilians in their homes

    This is a very advanced weapon. It was used only once in the gulf war (the high yield version of it) and one bomb was attributed for liquidating a full Iraqi battalion entrenched in the Palm fields!

    Scary!

    Here's an article on Human Rights Watch regarding similar reports from Afghanistan

    And here's the weapon:

    sensor
    Picture: Textron Systems/U.S. Air Force |

     

    Sensor Fuzed Weapon (Episode: The Power of Fear)

    A much improved version of the standard cluster bomb, the sensor fuzed weapon (formally the CBU-97) uses "smart" bomblets to spread destruction across battlefields with precise strikes on multiple enemy targets. The CBU-97 is actually a bomb-like canister (above, inset) containing 10 cylindrical canisters (called "submunitions") that each hold four "smart" hockey puck-shaped "skeet" bomblets, giving a total of 40 bomblets per weapon.

    As shown in the diagram above, just after the main canister is released, its skin opens ("A" on the diagram), deploying the 10 submunitions each with its own parachute. At a preset altitude, the parachutes are jettisoned (B) and rockets in the submunition canisters (C) lift them up and then spin to disperse the skeet bomblets (D). Infrared sensors in the bomblets then search for targets that are taken out with small powerful warheads (E).

    --Discovery:Future weapons
     http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/futureweapons/photo/photo_10.html

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    • #1
    • wedad
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/10/2006 3:06:30 PM
    they gonna use it....!!!!!!!!! those monsters!! ma 3ndhom dam belmara...their end will be so  dam pain!
    I didn't know copper can pierce through armor.
    Imagine, the sky raining down, 2800feet/second, molten copper shaped charges!
    The demonstration was shocking (even for military veterans) they covered an area of larger than 10 football fields with this, everything that was there, was gone!
    Pretty scary!
    (they called it the weapon of 13 miracles)
    • #4
    • rami
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/10/2006 9:12:52 PM
    thanks ya Qwaider...and in the meantime, man still eats man
    All this creativity, in how to kill other humans! It's turning to an Art form.
    The scary part in this, is that someones 9-5 is sitting and thinking of better ways to kill other people ...
    Why is everyone so upset about these things? Could it be no one knows about the past? When in 1943 the British Air Force targeted the civilian population of Hamburg (assidiuosly avoiding any military or port facilities) no one complained. When it became known that over 50.000 women, children and men, including entire hospitals had been doused with phospour thereby burning them alive (for phospour cannot be extinguished) no one complained. The fact that these horrible bombs had been developed by the Brtitish during the 1930´s and that Germany had nothing even remotely as evil in its arsenal, no one complained or even paid attention to it. When explaining that the British and the Americans had developed truly heinous ATTACK weapons systems as early as the 1920´s(!)-(Whom were they planning on attacking? San Moritz perhaps?) no one took notice. Those victims were only Germans (demonstrably the most productive and creative nation on earth during the past 250 years), but today when Pals and Lebanese (who hunt down white girls, assault them as whores and gang rape them TODAY in England and Australia) everyone is o so upset. Do I smell a rat here? I sure as hell do! Gerry Frederics
    Gerry, You were doing great up until you stated that racial comment. Palestinians and Lebanese are just like any other people. There are good and there are bad. The absolute majority don't don't do anything to your pretty white girls. Sex is not even allowed without marriage and consent, at least this is what the religion, custom states.
    The truth is, Germans were not the only people to suffer from horrible war crimes, but they have also done the same to the Russian, polish, Austrian, french, and so many others. Additionally, the allies have also done atrocities in Japan and elsewhere.
    Atrocities and war crimes are despicable acts no matter who commits them. It's not a matter of where or when and what's the excuse.
    • #9
    • Dan Kuhn
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/17/2006 12:07:17 AM
    Well, I know why, they're just Krauts. Much like how Lebanese and Palestinians are just A-rabs.
    • #10
    • Machiavelli
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/17/2006 8:27:02 AM
    Quite bluntly, I confess that I have no real use for Arabs or Jews. All they seem to do is cause trouble for the rest of the world, drawing others into their conflicts. It's a shame that they don't kill each other to the last man and be with it - I tire of hearing about these endlessly feuding people.

    However, regarding Israel's use of advanced weaponry - when fighting a war, the intelligent should use every means at their disposal to annihilate the opposing force, ending the conflict as quickly as possible.

    Further, in any war there is no such thing as a non-combatant: quite simply, children grow into soldiers, and women churn out replacements that grow into more soldiers. That is an indisputable fact. The supposed "innocence" of non-combatants, real or imagined, in the eyes of a "compassionate" opposition, has nothing to do with the prosecution and winning of a war, and will only lead to eventual failure.

    The Romans realized this, and at times resorted to slaughtering those opposing them. Carthage is the prime example. Such draconian actions, for good or ill, assured their survival for a time lasting much longer than any civilization existing today.

    Unfortunately, due to the West (especially since the end of WW 2) applying questionable "rules" to the fighting of wars, it is virtually certain that when World War Three arrives (and it will indeed arrive) that the West will be the ones vanquished by their merciless opponents. I submit they will look at the West in the same fashion that the Romans looked at Carthage - an enemy that must be destroyed.

    Absolute, unremitting hatred of the enemy is the true nature of man, and those who deny such an assertion should study history.
    Machiavelli, I'm glad then that I'm a Muslim which 1400 years ago banned the murder of women, children and civilians in general. It even banned the demolishing of houses or cutting of trees.
    At a time when your glorious roman empire and the despicable descending roman catholic church was killing and burning men, women and children in Jerusalem of Muslims, Christians and Jews, the Muslims had finer and more moral rules of engagement.
    Just a little thing for your so called civilized west to ponder on. Human rights, preserving nature is nothing new to Muslims.
    Total annihilation was NEVER the Arab or Muslim tradition. And I'm so glad and proud of that.
    No use for Arabs or Jews? such a real bigot remark! And a true Anti-semitic one none the less. You should be ashamed of your self. Every life saved is worth it, every life lost is a real loss.
    • #12
    • Williams the Plumber
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/17/2006 5:08:13 PM
    What the hey, I'll throw in my two cents ... I see no reason not to improve weapon systems in order to inflict as much damage to enemy fortifications and troops while insuring the survivability our own military personnel.

    The advent of a mass-killing munition that decimates everyone considered "not us," follows the same reverse geneaology that led from stones to bronze to steel to Welsh Archers. Scipio's reformation of Roman military tactics led to the preservation of the Republic and the destruction of the traitor Hannibal (Hannibal's father signed a mutual non-aggression pact with Rome which was broken in 219BC leading to outright war between Rome and Carthage.)

    Advances in killing as many of "them" and fewer of "us" means we can worry about that end-of-month mortgage, summer picnics, and beer and fishing. Appeasers, pacifists, and moralists typically choose what is easy as opposed to what is right when faced with the aggressive destruction of their way of life. Appeasers attempt to diplomatically compromise; pacifists kneel and hope for autonomy; moralists justify their defeat.

    In the words of Arnaud-Amaury, 1209AD, "Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet" - Kill them all; God will know his own.

    Williams
    • #13
    • Machiavelli
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/18/2006 12:58:22 AM
    Qwaider:

    I find your condescending response rather amusing - tell me, in recent years, just exactly how many women and children have died in terrorist attacks perpetrated by Muslims?

    If you reply none have died in such attacks - I submit that you are a liar, period.

    Your intransigent attitude of complete denial is quite typical of Muslims; it strains credulity, and yes, I am an anti-semite, and am very proud to be one. Based upon contemporary histrical observation, wherever Arabs or Jews appear, of whatever faith, trouble ensues.

    You also apparently don't have any real grasp of European history, as for much of the Roman Empire's existence, it was pagan, not Catholic. Specifically, Rome was pagan until 313 CE, under Emperor Constantine, the "Christian". Rome fell in 476 CE, under Romulus Augustalus - and fell basically due to corruption and Christianity.

    Further, if you haven't already figured it out, I have no use for religion either. Man is an ignorant, much too short-lived creature to even fathom the infinite, and flatters himself thinking that he can.

    This observation includes you and myself, as we are only men, who, for the most part, learn and believe only what we are taught. Then, after a short march of years, we die, probably encountering oblivion upon death. Hence, man's religions (pagan, Christian, Muslim, Judaism, et cetera) are nothing more than mythical superstition rooted in nothing at all.

    To clarify my point, there is not one individual on earth that can definitively prove that there is, or is not, a god. I'll leave it at that; you seem intelligent enough to realize the preceeding sentence is a true statement.

    And as for life - I venture that it has no real, discernable meaning, other than reproduction, id est, excepting for what any specific individual assigns to it.

    Should you desire to respond in a cogent fashion, you will find that ad hominem attacks (id est, canards such as "anti-semite") have no effect upon me. I only deal in facts, not emotional remarks, based upon delusional "beliefs".

    That said, convince me to think otherwise, by using facts.

    Regards,

    "Machiavelli"


    I didn't have time to respond to this because I've been travelling most of the day.
    Alright, to answer you. I would say, WAY LESS than the women and children that were slaughtered by the hands of the Crusaders in one day.
    Look, the rule is clear, Women and children and never a target.

    And you're right about my condescending tone, I have every right to claim the moral high-ground in this matter with many proofs
    Now regarding the history Lesson, which I thank you for but allow me to correct you a little bit, The Roman Empire was ended at the hands of Napoleon. Way after you mentioned. There have been several reincarnations of it over history. (double check if you don't believe me)
    Now since you're don't have a "use" for religion that doesn't really matter. In anyway.
    The bases of "Faith" as apposed to lack of is not to be confused with certainty. After all, if you were certain, then faith will not exist. There are evidences in both sides. At this point, one's faith becomes meaningful. Why? Because Faith is based on believing that God exists, even though you can't 100% scientifically prove it. Yet you're willing to die for it.
    We do that all the time, people die for the love of a woman, even though there is no certainty that they would reach it. Same goes for dying for a "Cause" which is also faith, but not something substantiated that you can say for sure would make any difference
    Now regarding Facts and no Emotions, how can we claim to be humans if we subtract Emotions from our formula? We just turn into savage beasts that Justify mass murder, concentration camps, tourture and other despicable acts. And THAT's why I retain my moral high-ground, because I embrace Human traits, superlative to those of animals and abstract science!
    Again, since Morality is also by definition an emotion, related to empathy, encouraged by religion but abandoned by people, and aliased in all possible ways by agnostics. Then you might also not have any use for it. And in that you Win your argument however sick I may find it, and I win my argument however absurd and illogical you might find it.

    • #15
    • Machiavelli
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/19/2006 8:16:44 AM
    Qwaider:

    Kindly allow me to correct you on the subject of European history.

    The original Roman Empire, founded by the indigenous inhabitants of central Italy in 753 BCE, ended in 476 CE, with Romulus Augustalus, the last Emperor, being deposed by Odacer the Scirian. That was a very long time before French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte, the Corsican Corporal, lived. Further, the "Holy Roman Empire" to which you are so casually referring was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire, nor was it descended from Rome. Originally a Frankish kingdom, it was simply a confederation of Christian Germans and their allies.

    Continuing, the original Roman governmental entity was also known as the Roman Empire of the West, after 285 CE. The eastern Roman Empire, otherwise known as the Byzantine Empire, was founded by Emperors Diocletian (286-305 CE) and Emperor Constantine (324-337 CE). The Byzantine Empire fell in 1453 CE, conquered by Muslim Saracens. Its capital was Constantinople, now known as Istanbul, located in the present-day country of Turkey.

    Simply consult any college level history text for confirmation of these facts. Enough of the history lesson, on to other things.

    Regardless of your errant remarks, you strike me as an intelligent individual; your arrogant condescension I find needlessly crass on your part, as I find Allah and his "prophet" Mohammed, quite truthfully, obtuse. Please don't feel singled out, my opinion of Christianity and Judaism is just as negative as my opinion of Islam. Again, I submit that all religions are grounded in baseless, ignorant superstition, period.

    Focusing on your professed religion of Islam for a moment, man has been on this planet in his present form for perhaps 100,000 years, yet Muslims vociferously claim that an illiterate caravan raider and rapist revealed "god's word", via the Koran only 1427 years ago. Please consult the Hadiths (biographical texts on Mohammed) for confirmation of these blunt allegations, focusing especially on the verses regarding a girl named Aisha, whose betrothal to Mohammed was consummated when she was nine years of age.

    I personally find such recorded actions on Mohammed's part revolting, and submit to you that there were much wiser men who lived before Mohammed that had a much better grasp on the nature of existence, in varying ways of course: e.g., Siddhartha Gautama, Solon, Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Epictetus the Stoic, Marcus Aurelius, et cetera. Perhaps you should read of them and broaden your outlook.

    Please note that none of these men advocated murder as a way of spreading a "belief system", like Mohammed DID in fact advocate in the Koran. I specifically refer to Surah Five (The Table), and Surah Nine (The Repentance). Each of these fine Surahs tell Muslims to KILL those that disbelieve in Allah, with merciless impunity.

    As for the Christian Crusaders - consult a history book and you will find that the Muslims started the conflict, using the Koran as a guidebook, by FORCEFULLY conquering Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Judea, Turkey, Persia, Spain, and finally threatened to subdue Europe as well. During this time Muslims slaughtered innocent Christians, Jews, and pagans by the tens of thousands, along with anyone else that got in their way. For your information, this documented, religion-driven carnage included women and children as well. Those that managed to survive the Muslim onslaught were enslaved, with surviving women taken as war prizes and raped in "harems", by depraved sexual deviants.

    Those are the facts, succinctly.

    In my opinion, the Muslims asked for what they received from the Christian Crusaders, and got what they deserved, just like Muslims are asking for what they will eventually receive today, and deservedly so I might add. They, just like their cousins the Jews, are arrogant, alien interlopers, interfering in societies they have no business in interfering with.

    Simply ask the Russians of Beslan of their opinion of "peaceful" Islam, Chechnya notwithstanding, considering that "devout Muslims" RAPED and SLAUGHTERED 350 or so innocent CHILDREN occupying a school, during September 2004. I needn't mention other contemporary examples of wanton, Muslim perpetrated, senseless carnage; you are well aware of them.

    As an aside, you may be surprised to find: I agree that the Palestinians, regardless of what I may think of them personally, do have legitimate grievances with those governing Israel. So, why attack Europeans, or Americans, as hapless surrogates for Jews? Honestly - what do such actions prove, except to sow even more seeds of hatred for Muslims? Simply confine your battles to the Jews, and leave non-Jews out of it; see if I or others actually care who wins the conflict.

    Now, regarding "belief". Belief is not fact, it has to do with a very human form of foolishness called "faith". One can have all the faith in the world that a particular belief system is correct, but faith is not proof of the validity of said "belief". Therefore, as I deal only in facts, I have no use for faith or belief either, and will leave it at that.

    Yet another term you speak of in passing is "morality". Morality is only another arbitrary construct, created by man, in order to maintain some semblance of a civilization. Ergo, morality, and its offshoot, ethics, are subjective terms, based upon consensus in any culture that a given group of individuals may find themselves in.

    History is replete with examples of this very human phenomenon. Clarifying my point, what is considered "morally acceptable" or "good" in one society is often considered "morally unacceptable" or "bad", in another, arbitrarily. Hence, I have no use for the ambiguous term "morality" either, as it too is rooted in nothing concrete - it is created using man's fallible judgment.

    For the record, I have never once claimed to know the answer regarding man's origin, existence, or future, as I am only a man. However, I do know that middle-eastern derived belief systems, e.g., Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are NOT the answer. Further, if "god" actually exists - it wouldn't be such a manlike, arrogant, folly-ridden anthropomorphic construct, having wants, needs, or an obtuse desire for vengeance. Indeed, all of man's "gods", from Allah to Zeus, strike me as little more than laughable, angry, childish tyrants.

    Pause for a moment and realize that we, as simple mortal men, are not at all important in the scheme of the universe, as fools, we simply think that we are. In closing, I am not trying to "win" a petty argument with you, but I will state that I diametrically oppose your intransigent stance, and that you should use your intellect to investigate my allegations.

    Regards,

    "Machiavelli"



    Machiavelli! Stop right there
    You just love to inject the "Aisha" story into anything you want.
    this is your sick way of converting this about the person and not the matter, and I find it sick and disturbing, and I WILL NOT ACCEPT IT.
    First, there are plenty of proofs to prove that Aisha was married when she was 19 and not 9, and the whole thing was a matter of custom  and not a rule. Has nothing to do with anything. And you're ignorant view is just that. That was the custom back then and I would love to say it's the custom NOW when Catholic priests are molesting young kids.
    Aisha was Married, got the highest status possible, and was done by the consent and blessings of her parents AND the society. Who are you or ANYONE to apply your false morals 1400 years later?  Just as the weird customs that were everywhere in the christian world everywhere. From chastity belts to inquisitions.
    As for the Stupid roman empire(s) who gives a damn! the last of them was ended by Napoleon and that's it, I also commend you on your Googling skills I already know all of that junk about the European history and I didn't want to get into the details for it.

    As for the crusaded, I have no idea what you're smoking dude, but both eastern and western historians agreed that it was sparked by greed and imperialistic impulses of the corrupt, ignorant and starving people of Europe and the Muslims had every right to defend their lands. If you get me one text against this, I'll give you 10 or 100 that support it

    You don't seem to like to stick to a point. ALL Palestinians are against attacking any 3rd parties including the ones who help the Israelis in committing genocide against them. Palestinians didn't murder Rachel Corey in cold blood. Palestinians didn't bomb Lebanon back to the dark ages, Palestinians didn't attack, kill and murder the crew of the USS Liberty, Palestinians didn't kill 8 Canadian citizens in southern Lebanon. Palestinians didn't attack and kill UN UNIFIL forces, Palestinians didn't attack UN Bunker in Qana killing over a hundred civilians. Yes, there have been some that crossed the line, but the main stream remains united in focusing the resistance to Israelis

    I stopped reading your extremely condescending comment at that point. Because frankly I'm not going to waste my time on you. You want to see the truth, it's right in your face, and you're not going to school me with a bunch of media related junk. So keep your opinions to yourself. And believe what ever it is that you believe
    Believe in what ever you want. That's your choice
    • #17
    • Machiavelli
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/20/2006 8:12:54 AM
    Qwaider:

    Boy, it looks like I struck a nerve in you.

    I honestly don't care what you may or may not accept, those allegations come from YOUR "holy" scriptures, whether you have read them or not. I submit that all Muslims are the same, arguing with them is like arguing with a bag of hammers. In case you are unaware, your own Hadiths state that Aisha was six years old when betrothed to Mohammed, and he had sex with her when she was NINE.

    Hey - they're your books, not mine, perhaps you can buy copies of the Hadiths, actually READ THEM, and then ERASE what you don't like.

    I also noticed that you completely ignored my citations of your Koran, along with the gory events that occurred in Beslan, Russia, in September 2004. Please remember you said that Muslims don't kill children. Oh, I forgot - those innocent little Russian children who were raped and murdered were "infidels" in the eyes of Allah. Silly me. Regardless, just because you ignore such facts doesn't make them go away.

    Your obtuse remark with regard to Catholics amused me, and yes, most priests strike me as queers too, and the nuns are probably closet lesbians. That said, if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm an atheist and always have been. Therefore, I couldn't care less what you may say about Christians.

    Moving on, I notice that you can't debate those who may disagree with you, can you? For example, I proved you ABSOLUTELY WRONG on the Roman Empire, along with the Crusades, regardless of what you may say. I could go into a detailed history of the Crusades, and the Muslim conquests, but you wouldn't read that either, as you have an intransigent, closed mind. Further, I conclusively proved that all your high sounding words are nothing but conjectural sophistry, and you skulk off like a spoiled brat.

    A very typical Muslim response, I have yet to encounter one Muslim that doesn't get carried away with regard to their emotions, especially when a "taboo" Islamic subject is brought up. Hey, I don't care, go ahead and believe what your superstitious parents told you, inculcating others with your simplistic worldview - and then rot in the ground, just like all other men do, when you die. What a waste of precious time.

    In closing, I noticed that you claim to be in America presently. Just what exactly are you doing there, making bombs to slaughter infidels, or are you simply getting welfare checks from the American taxpayers, instead of trying to make life better where you were born?

    I'll bet that struck a nerve in you too.

    Anyway, with cadres of delusional, dangerous folks like you around, World War Three is an ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY. Goodbye, you poor, deluded man, perhaps one day you will actually learn how to THINK for yourself, though I doubt it.

    Regards,

    "Machiavelli"

    Machiavelli,
    Apparently It's me who has actually struck a nerve here! Not only did you turn to personal attacks and accusations, you went further to conclude that all Muslim Americans, are terrorists conspiring to make bombs and slaughter innocent people!
    Well Sir, the joke is on you. I don't want to brag, but I'm one of the people that corporate America was running after to "import" to this great nation. And, to put things in perspective, financially speaking I had way more when I came here than most Americans do in their lifetime. But that's not really important!
    Again, I would like to state and clearly that Muslims are united in standing up to the word terrorism. Islam is 100% against it. It's against slaughtering of any innocent non combatants. And preaches tons of tolerance and rules of engagement to really limit the amount of combatant life wasted in wars.
    Yes, there have been violations for this, I don't deny that, and as a Muslim, I continue to be saddened by them. But lines do get crossed, and people do make bad judgement calls, that's not to be confused with a "mandate" by Islam or the Quran to do this.
    100% of the verses that the wast uses as proof that Islam is violent are actually taken totally out of context. The view is clear, it requires more than simply reading one verse and interpreting the literal meaning to get it. But I'm sure that's not a luxury Islam is going to enjoy in the eyes of the west.
    The story of Aisha is well known, it was the custom of the days (at worst case) and a simple miscalculation is probably the better explanation.
    As for rutting in dirt, well, take it this way, while we might be rotting in dirt, we might also end up in paradise while you spend eternity in hell. That's my belief, and the other is yours. We'll know (for sure) one day
    • #19
    • afaf
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/21/2006 4:40:37 AM
    well said qwaider, this guy is really crossed his line and honestely dunno how u can manage to control ur temper with such ppl...but if i may add, do americans really believe that arabs r starving for the american dream, and they come to usa just to get the welfare benefits, hey get ur info straightened up, dude, and yeah, some other ppl, not only arabs come over here just to make money out of it, but yet u cannot generalize and assume only muslims/arabs do that..
    and yeah why do u think that arguing with muslims is like arguing with bag of hammers....?? wow...u must have seen it all...mr know it all... since u believe in what u believe in, why bother arguing....why bother, really?? i cannot see the point of it?? we stand up for our own values and believes, unlike most other ppl, who simply cannot find their own peace in themsleves or what they believe in...
    we r not extremist as u might think, i believe most ppl here r so open minded  and i personally dealt with ppl from most religions i would say, but i have never encountered anyone who would argue in such a rude way like u do... u wanna make a point, make it, in a civilized way and yeah stop attacking other persons to make a point, cuz this is not gonna get u anywhere...u were attacking qwaider in person, not what he wrote!! what do u know about him to assume he is here just for the money!!!? believe me, u have a long way to go to know ppl here, and if u have dealt with ppl from certain type or u simply  lable ppl according to their backgrounds or origins, then i guess u r so narrow minded and u can never lead a productive argument...
    • #20
    • afaf
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 8/21/2006 4:41:48 AM
    sorry qwaider for my non polite response, i just had to do so...
    khodi ra7tek. (take your rest)
    from chicago o'hare airport.
    Ray, I have no idea what you're smoking but that kind of junk is not tolerated here.
    You wanna do hate speech go make your own stupid blog and practice it there
    How crazy can you be to wish that You can kill all Muslims?
    • #24
    • Anaro
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 2/22/2007 6:42:58 PM
    Yea both Qwaider and machiavelli have good points, i am not very familiar with the romans and crusaders that well, havnt studied the past that far back yet but im sure both of you are wrong yet right about things in your "conversation"...i personally in reading what i have here today have to point my finger towards machiavelli if what he says is true and if what qwaider said was true i believe machiavelli more, although i dont support athiests and i am a coholic and believe i am going ot heaven when i die, or hell if people really want to get into it, i just feel i needed to make my oppinion in these nice forums and now i am done, well said on both parts
    greetings friends. i dont really know how i came upon this website, i was checking out advanced weapons in search of something, and found it..started reading. haha, ill be the first to tell you that im not as literate as ya'll or educated in the sense of school. i found it hard though not to respond to all the comments left by mr. qwaider and mr. machiavelli. it seems to me two smaller versions of what i have just finished doing. fighting a war. i am actually on my way home and thus my free time to find this. i have been fighting in iraq for two years. i have seen the hatred in the eyes of the enemy firsthand. i am just an extent of political power on one side. but on my level, i am just a man, leading other men to do violence on behalf of my country. so that my great nation can sleep easy at night while i worry about leading me and my men. it seems to me, these so called arabs, are a violent people, mixed with good ones. the first year i was here, i didnt see the innocent ones. i fought men women and children, who were all capable of attacks against us. then the second year. i fought the bad, helped the good. even turned the bad guys into ally's and we together fought the enemies. it seemed those people didnt care about our religion and not one of us gave a damn about theirs. but when you listen to the mosque on the loudspeakers during every prayer, tell the people to kill the jew lovers or target the americans because we are gaining the trust of the people, the really bad stuff always came out. we restored power and gave it to those who never had it. we saved childrens lives who were mowed down while the enemy tried to kill us. we helped those who asked for it, and utterly destroyed the enemies of us and the people we were helping. they recognized that. and helped us capture and kill more of them. i think this whole debate between ya'll was about how bad this group of people was and that group. that and the need for more destructive weapons or not. well as a fighter, not just some guy that went someplace in iraq, ill be the first to tell you that more destruction is better. it has its downsides too, dont get me wrong. but realize, once the fight starts, there is no such thing as a fair fight. why do you think japan surrendered? because we had a big ass bomb thats why, and we used it. a couple times. it is not my choice to send an army to war, it is my duty to fight it as my fathers did, or my ancestors did. so i would expect any country and its people so they could fight for their beleifs, from the beginning of time. one must stand for something. as i see both of ya'll do. ask yourself, what would you do to survive if war was at your feet? would you pray? then you'd surely die. only the hard survive my friends. those who are willing to destroy anyone and anything to get home, or to save his friends, or to eat one last nasty meal for the sake of a good laugh. when the towers were hit on sept 11 who was at fault? i would say honestly it was the weak defenses of the nation. thinking it would never happen. if you want peace, prepare for war. but who were the attackers? you can answer that question we all know. and on what basis was that plot conceived? religion? which one? why? take a look at the bigger picture here. if it was another country or religion, or group that did that on another soil, would not they start a war over it as well? if you did not, then the world would see that you could get away with it there and much worse would follow. the idea here is to inflict such severe punishment to your enemy that they find it not worth the price to attack and be demorilized. i support my president 100 percent even if i dont agree with him. that is my duty, i swore it. so if he says we go to war, then he is as good as my king, and we fight to the death defending not so much his big picture or purpose, but our own. our friends to our left and right, our brothers in arms. as far as your religion goes, you should be free to believe whatever you want. in some countries you cannot. thats what makes america great. as long as your free will doesnt interfere with someone elses freedoms, then you can believe that killing  babies is good, or eating shit is healthy. i dont care, but when someone crosses my line, and takes away my freedom to move safely in my own country, damn if me and that person wont go at it. cause i am a redneck southern boy, and friends, freedom isnt free. its paid for by the lives of men ive had the honor of serving with so you can have your opinions and beleifs. but remember, if that world war 3 that was spoken of comes, and i am a part of it, then me or my men will have no problem destroying the earth we live on if we cannot live with our freedoms that so many have laid their lives down for to give us. give me liberty or give me death. i suspect this not so educated blog will strike some nerves as im sure the freedoms we have as americans, true born americans who would bleed for an inch of our soverign soil, stand for things that others can and may never have. good day fools, dont preach about what you believe in, live it, take tylonol for headaches, mydol for any cramps. sgt.D out.
    by the way, im from the usa haha, later
    • #27
    • Drew
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    • On: 8/20/2008 6:06:28 AM
    I look forward to the time when the wisdom of humanity grows beyond religious beliefs. The time when we realize our greatness in unity and the understanding of our place in the cosmo's.

    As a species were destined for greatness if we can understand ourselves. If we fail to understand ourselves we fail to exist and at no loss to the cosmo's.



    • #28
    • axman
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    • On: 8/22/2008 12:38:42 PM
    it seems you have totally misunderstood what the sensor fused weapon actually does, the bomblets or "skeets" contain sensors that lock on to enemy armor NOT PERSONNEL and is designed to harmlessly detonate any skeet that does not find a target

    this weapon system actually PREVENTS unintended casualty because it can tell the difference between a tank and a man and can destroy an entire armored regiment without destroying buildings or leaving unexploded bomblets

    its a SMART cluster bomb the fist of its kind and if you are honestly saying they should use "normal bombs" instead then you are a fool who wants more civilians and infrastructure to die
    • #29
    • axman
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    • On: 8/22/2008 7:47:08 PM
    sorry ive come across sounding a bit arrogant and angry there and ime not usually like that.
    i have a bit of a pet grump for the way people tend to attack technology before they understand what it does, and the sensor fused weapon is a MAJOR leap forward from normal unguided cluster bombs.
    cluster bombs traditionally just obliterate EVERYTHING in their blast zone buildings, people, power lines, dams,and just maybe your target.
    but with a sensor fused weapon 99% of unintended damage is just not even gonna happen.
    i admit its not perfect and it cant be used against anything except a large concentration of enemy vehicles so wont be able to replace all traditional uses for "dumb" cluster bombs but for the job its desighned for its perfect.

    the best way to understand how it works is to give you an example so you see what i mean....

    imagine a city ime picturing bristol in england but any city you know well.
    imagine a hostile power has 120 heavy duty armored tanks rolling thru the streets towards a target they cannot be aloud to take (nuclear power station, seat of government,etc)three planes take off from an airforce base and each deploys a sensor fused weapon.
    the weapons go off and between them launch 120 skeets are launched.

    each skeet wobbles in the air allowing its inbuilt infra red sensor to scan the ground seeking the reflection that indicates the presence of enemy vehicles by comparing the reflections to its target library.

    while its doing this its data-linked to the other skeets so they select different targets and select the heaviest targets as priority targets to be locked on to by any skeet within range that dosent have a target of its own.
    then they explode releasing a shaped charge packed around a copper cone  because tank armor is so thick only special shaped charges can penatrate these days.

    now instead of a whole city block being annihilated in a firestorm of death 85-95% of your enemy tanks are neutralized.
    the only civilian deaths are between 3 and 12 people in cars or more likely vans or trucks fleeing the tanks, like i said not perfect but if you think about the alternative its not even an issue

    add to that that any skeet that has no target is programed to wait until it hits the floor and detonate its shaped charge harmlessly into the ground so no more children maimed when they find bomblets by stepping on them or picking them up which i think we can all agree is a good thing

    incidentally this "shaped charge" is not new technology its the same thing that allows rocket propelled grenades and improvised explosive devices to work on tanks

    like i said sorry for being all high and mighty earlier but this weapon is sooooooooo far away from what you think it is
    • #30
    • axman
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    • On: 8/22/2008 7:53:17 PM
    oh and its not cheap either a single senor fused weapon costs $360,000
    thats allot for a single one use munition
    Thanks Axman, for the additional details. But allow me to state the obvious here.
    First of all, all types of cluster bombs are banned internationally. With the exception of the US and Israel.
    Second, the main problem with skeets in particular and cluster bombs in specific is their high rate of misfiring or not firing at all. Leaving in their wake a huge amount of munitions that is still live and very much deadly that could last for decades and end up exploding when an unsuspecting civilian reaches that area, or when the failsafe, eventually, fails. It's the same kind of problem that people deal with when they deal with landmines.

    I'm not saying we need to substitute one bomb for another. I wish all bombs can go away. But if that's not the case, then maybe a little precision instead of this "spray" of Miracles to get a single, inaccurate, and lethal weapon unleashed
    • #33
    • Joe
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    • On: 3/27/2009 3:13:57 AM
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    Actually people should know their history before posting.
    • #34
    • Joe
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    • On: 3/27/2009 3:24:54 AM
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        And Qwaider though I do not agree with all the points from the poster named Machavelli(kind of Juv. ), he makes points that you dismiss without any thought or defense . To an objective reader, it makes your positions appear a bit weak. Why don't you answer him point by point? I would do no less.
    Joe   
    • #36
    • bandit 6
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    • On: 10/8/2009 4:31:37 PM
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    you guys are all retards. sad little babies chewing on each other in a play pen. the Arabs of which you speak have some wonderful tradition like their charity. however they're also known for treating their women like shit and trying to wipe israel which they've been doing since 1946. yeah and the crusaders and the catholics were pretty bad to christians today are still taking shit for what that group of misnamed pagans did. but hey look at your wars they're never gonna end even if you find good "reasons" for peace they'll still go on killing each other because THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE DO! yeah its ugly and bad but its normal and people are gonna keep doing it because we are born bad and all f**ked up. listen i know everyone dreams of a world filled with sunshine and peace and prosperity but half of the people who dream see a wonderful place to live and the others see a wonderful place to plunder. yeah if you're peaceful and you get roughed up it is your own delusions which will have killed you an understanding of human nature is crucial to living among them
    • #38
    • Quaid
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    • On: 4/21/2014 11:55:03 PM
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    I am reading here of atrocities you speak of and how wrong this thing is how wrong that thing is .War I must agree is terrible ,every action damaging something has its wrong. This weapon we are reading/talking about is sounding like the most destructive thing possible. What I need to say is this revisiting WWII with a finger pointed at allies & axis wrongdoing is treason. You people enjoying freedoms of the peace secured by all actions combined are traitors. Traitors to the freedom you enjoy in order to cast a web of hatred over the means used to provide you with privelege. You don't even acquaint yourselves with facts so much as try to seed disgust against those who struggled to bring you the result you ENJOY
    • #39
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 4/23/2014 9:45:09 PM
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    Dear Quad
    No one disagrees on some facts and sacrifices by older generations, but the time has come to put war against civilians behind us. We can't possibly advance as human race if we keep killing each other and waste our resources and life just to satisfy our greed. It is time to grow up and ensure the sanctity of the human rights. Wherever you come from and wherever you live. The life of any human is precious and shouldn't be wasted for any reason.
    You too can have your Memories Documented

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