When can we expect graduates to know
- By: Qwaider
- On:Friday, March 20, 2009 10:41:49 AM
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How many people who graduated with you, know anything about the major they're studying? Yes, they got the marks, they passed the classes, the fooled the professors (or not), but they managed to game the system into receiving a degree.
Well, good for them. But what happens next is what's important, and what happens? We end up with the greatest ratio of illiterate degree holders in the world, if there was a measurement for such a thing.
Truth is, many people go to school to achieve a certain social status, to help them get married, to give them the proper networking circles. But not getting a real education or building on that education in anyway..
Worse yet? Some even go to the ever growing number of post graduate programs all over the place to be worse illiterates, with higher degrees.
It's even worse for the ladies in many of the developing countries. Where a degree is their ticket out of their abusive parent's house into the abusive husband's house. Education as a side effect is, well, not bad. But it's really not the goal in many cases.
It's sad to see young people waste their potentially bright future in the dark vanity of an unappreciative society. Where a degree is nothing but a piece of cardboard wielded only in special occasions, like getting married!
It's about time we throw these old ideas out of the window, get our hands dirty and start carving our own vision and our own future out of the remnants of the ashes that we live in. Success should never be left to those 2 geeks you used to go to university with and who graduated knowing everything they wanted to know
And don't you ever say I never learned anything at school, it only means, you were on autopilot when the good stuff was on.
Memories....
I also find that usually, the more "educated" a person is, the dumber they are. They become so specialized that they actually become less able to function in society, which is why many longtime students decide to stay in academia, because they adapt to that unreal world, becoming less able to function in the real one.
I would very much like to see a study which measures the loss of cognitive and social skills compared to the degree level that was studied or attained (bachelor's, master's, Ph.D., or beyond), corrected for aging.
The hunger for knowledge is non-existent in our youth simply because we've objectified knowledge and linked it to irrelevant variables such as job, marriage, and wealth.
The Ministry of Education should step up and eliminate Tawjihi if they wish for our kids to think creatively and seek knowledge for its own sake.
Absolutely, there is a lot of truth in what you said. The more people know, the less they can communicate as humans, and I have observed this first hand
My wife keeps bugging me about my colleagues who can barely speak. You want another very funny example? Watch Big Bang Theory!
Amino
First of all, welcome back
Second, you're absolutely right, it's becoming less and less of a goal and more of a means. And that by its definition sucks!
But I don't agree with you on Tawjihi. In fact, I think it's the only good thing remaining in all of our education system, we should keep it and possibly make it every year instead of at the end of 12 years. It's really good and I've seen the good results that come from it.
Many people who failed Tawjihi, will complain about it. Many people who succeeded JUST to get in a decent school will criticize it. But I'm sure the vast majority has benefited from it. It's the only step in the education system that makes students take education seriously. And we shouldn't miss on an opportunity like this.
But what comes after it is what counts. How we direct our future
Ahmad,
Thanks ahead, but I beg to differ. I've seen the education system in the Arab world and in the west and I can tell you with great authority that what you said is a common misconception in the Arab world
Arab students come to the US and kick serious ass because they're better prepared. They might not have all the language skills but in science, math they excel like there is no tomorrow! Statistics prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt. So what happens? Why do we get so good up to a point, and then everything appears to fizzle away?
Another thing is that the static sciences haven't changed since... oh god knows how long. But at least a 100 years. So there isn't really anything that warrants changing what students learn. The average twjihi Student knows better than 2nd year collage here in the US. Because these static sciences never change. Math is the same, Calculus, Physics, Chemistry ...etc. At school levels, these have not changed.
I remember taking Atomic physics in high school, and material that would only appear in post graduate books. It was fun to read and understand. But most students thought it was a waste of time. I still remember the subjects. And I still remember how fascinating fission, and fusion were to me when I was in 10th or 11th grade! Guess what, 10 years before that, my sister explained them to me as well. So they have been there for a long time.
So for tawjihi, I don't agree with you. But after that, I completely agree with what you said. The professors (who mostly graduated from universities abroad) just don't seem to care. And with no drive towards research in anyway. It becomes even worse.
I think the issue is social more than curricular. We need to reshape the way we think. The way our students think. That's the bottom line
And I agree, a degree is -supposed to- broaden the way we think. But that's for people who are really interested in learning. I think you might have misunderstood me.
If i may add one thing, i think many people go through university programs more or less only because they are expected to do so. They put themselves on auto pilot in school and indeed in their entire life. It might not be about getting a higher social status .. but it is like they are on an assembly line that is moving with them. They are expected to go to school, then university then go to a job and so on. Many of them don't do this because they love that certain field, but more ore less because of this "routine". Many don't really truly like their jobs but do it more or less because of that pre-setup routine.
You are absolutely right Qwaider.
There is one important thing though ,I believe parents plays the most important role, when you introduce your kid to books since they're little and plant that seed of wanting to gain knowledge for the sake of it not because i have an exam in it,you're solving a part of a problem yet to occur.
Complete your blog with this current news about Jordan. I wonder why I can not find this elsewhere in Jordanian media. Btw, what is your youtube queenie doing to prevent this barbaric act to her fellow countrywomen?
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2B ... 53072.html
March 22, 2009
Charged for honour killing
AMMAN (Jordan) - PROSECUTORS have charged a man and his two sons for the premeditated murder of his 19-year-old daughter on Saturday, in the latest honour killing to take place in this conservative desert kingdom.
The man and his two sons are charged with beating to death the daughter for leaving the house in make up and talking to a strange man, according to prosecutor Salah al-Taleb's indictment sheet.
The father brought his daughter to the hospital after she lost consciousness and turned himself in.
Autopsy showed severe injuries to the head which caused brain hemorrhage and the body was covered with bruises.
If convicted the man could be sentenced to life in jail.
In Jordan, an average of 20 women are killed by male relatives each year. -- AP
I have talked about this very subject many times over and I believe the Queen has taken many steps to try and fix this horrible situation. But we need more. We certainly need to abolish this barbaric tribal ritual. So I hear you, and I call for action from everyone.
It will take more than Royal decree to change people's mentalities.
In any case I am going to blog about something similar as a reply to this post.