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By: Qwaider

On:Friday, October 17, 2008 9:13:58 AM
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The world is watching as the American elections come closer to its final conclusion. Soon, there will be a president in the white house. A new president who will be taking care of issues. A new president who will wage wars (hope not), who would cut taxes, who would make economic decisions that will reverberate around the globe.

Not only that, but he will also be directly involved and in a position to change history, or even extinguish life on the face of this planet.

With such a global role, isn't it only fair that, we, the people (of the rest of the world) get to have a say over who gets the helm of this world?

The position is of global nature, not specifically or not only affecting the lives of Americans. But the countless other lives and the livelihoods of every person on the face of this planet.

We saw how the US is setting policies that affect the atmosphere globally. We saw how the US (especially when talking politics) has reach and might that extends way beyond its borders to as far, and as deep into other sovrinty that you might really get confused as to "who calls the shots"? The local government or the US?

I'm not talking about any form of conspiracy theory here, I'm talking about real, hard facts. The US has military bases all over the world, with naval fleets roaming all seas and oceans. Overlooking, every citizen of every country in his own home.

So why can't the people of the world have a say in the US elections? Democratic Logic mandates that if something directly affects me, then I should have a say in it. So why can't citizens of planet Earth vote on the person who's most likely to represent Earth in, say, Earth-Alien treaty?

I think it's about time, the US elections took the global vew into consideration. The Global vote should decide or at least help decide who is better fit to rule over this planet.

What do you think?

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#1
Hani Obaid
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On: 10/17/2008 7:18:03 AM

I think democratically speaking rather than asking the US to allow the rest of the world to vote. We need to ask it to put its troops, ships, bombs, planes, and weapons of mass destruction back where they belong. On US soil. This includes stopping selling them to anyone. Who invented nuclear weapons and who is the only country to actually use them in a war? Who sold Saddam the chem weapons ? Who keeps selling Saudi multi-billion dollar planes ? Finally the only form of foreign aid the US should be giving is food, medicine and technology, no money or weapons.

Before they do that, it's just exercising a repackaged politically correct form of imperialism. (I'm stronger than you, therefore you have to do what I tell you).

#2
kinzi
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On: 10/17/2008 3:43:19 PM

Actually, I think purchasing US products and ideas is essentially the same as casting a vote or not. Simplistic, but since our market controls much of our policy, not that far off.

As much as I am sure we differ politically, I would rather see you with voting rights than someone whose mom came to have a baby, get him/her citizenship, then go back to Jordan never to return to the US but retains an American passport. I didn't know that until this year, that you can be born there, never live there, not speak English and not only vote, but choose a swing state if you so desire.

With the recent mortgage debacle, the ease with which certain illegal immigrants have rights while Arabs can't even get a tourist visa. Makes me feel like the immigration system needs overhaul.

#3
Hani Obaid
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On: 10/17/2008 6:00:50 PM

I only speak for myself, but I don't let politics dictate my purchasing decisions. I happen to love American products, literature, movies, people, just not the foreign policy, the military, the arms industry, and the NRA culture. It's not an all or nothing kinda deal.

Canada has a rule where even if you're a citizen, if you've been living outside Canada for 5 years, you can't vote (with exceptions for diplomats soldiers and such). I think that's only fair.

#4
mab3oos
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On: 10/17/2008 7:02:20 PM

I think Jordanians already vote. Check out the lines at the american embassy every morning! The music they listen to and the TV shows they watch.
Also, I believe they're voting through a proxy. Since king Abdullah is pro Bush (currently) and since Jordanians approve of the king, it means that they approve of Bush and his foreign policy.

#5
سوزان
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On: 10/18/2008 6:30:24 AM

تعرف والله انك تقرأ افكاري كنت رح اكتب عن هالشي بعدين حكيت مين سائل
باعتقادي انه العالم اله ينتخب الرئيس القادم الى البيت الابيض لانها دوله عظمى وسياستها بتأثر على العالم ككل من هون امريكا بحاجه الى رئيس فهمان وعنده حس بالمسؤوليه مش واحد على حفة قبره والثانيه بتشوف روسيا من بيتها !!يعني الله يستر

#6
jessyz
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On: 10/18/2008 12:05:36 PM

With the current economic crisis and the way it has affected the rest of the world, I suppose the more powerful countries like Europe, Japan and perhaps China might demand a say in the Economic policy as well. I do agree with you that since their policies affect our countries we should get a say, the only thing is as we Egyptians say (be 2amaret eh) should we be given that right. We're not really productive, industrious or even have the minimal initiative to request that we be involved in the decision making process. I mean look at our own countries, do we vote? are we involved in our local politics? do we even try to change things? do we participate in local elections?

#7
Hani Obaid
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On: 10/18/2008 12:15:01 PM

jessyz, that's because the local elections are meaningless. Sadam used to get nearly 100% of the vote, so did Asad. We all know who's really in power.

#8
Qwaider
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On: 10/18/2008 12:26:05 PM

Change is coming... Believing it .. gives us all hope for a better future

#9
Marvin
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On: 10/19/2008 8:56:00 AM

Lol, no, because if the liberals get their way, America will no longer be relevant on the world stage. They have already destroyed America's political influence, and they are in the process of destroying America's economy. There won't be much left after that.

#10
Hani Obaid
Said
On: 10/19/2008 11:19:50 AM

Marvin, in case you haven't noticed the liberals haven't been in power for the past 8 years. To me the most common sense indicator is the national debt. The worst increases in the US deficit were during the Reagan era, and the 2 Bushes, and the only times it stopped increasing were during the Clinton and Carter era. So the liberals are the best thing that can happen right now.

#11
Hani Obaid
Said
On: 10/19/2008 11:22:35 AM

Graph, debt compared to each administration, the blue line is democrats, the red is republican:
(change hxxp to http)(hxxp://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm)

The actual numbers (if you prefer to graph them yourself):
(hxxp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf)

#12
Hani Obaid
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On: 10/19/2008 11:33:44 AM

just realized the charts link exceeded bandwidth, no problems it's real data so the graphs are all over :

hxxp://mediagirl.org/files/National-Debt-GDP.gif

#13
za3tar
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On: 10/19/2008 11:02:11 PM

hehehe .. good point, after all the US government plays a big role in "approving" our various Arab governments and elections, we should get to do the same :-p