I've talked about this a MILLION times already. Ok, here's my pre Eid rant once again...
While almost half the Arab world celebrates Eid on Tuesday, the rest is going to have it on Wednesday! AGAIN!
(Of course this is beyond ridiculous)
It's EID in Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Jordan, Yemen, Lebanon, Palestine and believe it or not, Libya (who claim it's based on Astronomical calculations) [The list is growing (Arabic)]
While the Fiqh Council (FCNA) of Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) have presumptively declared Wednesday as the first day of Eid
Which means, the mosques, cities, states and neighborhoods are going to be divided... Yet again!
Update: Countries, and date of first day of Eid (Multiple sources)
September 29, 2008 (Monday) |
September 30, 2008 (Tuesday) |
October 1, 2008 (Wednesday) |
October 2, 2008 (Thursday - not final/waiting sighting): |
Nigeria (Northern)
|
- Bahrain
- Jordan
- Kuwait
- Lebanon
- Libya (calculated)
- Saudia Arabia
- United Arab Emirates
- Yemen
- United Kingdom
- Turkey (Calculated)
- Switzerland
- Denmark
- Kazakhstan
- Greece
- Ireland
- Russia
- Germany
- Italy
- Norway
- Austria
- Canary Islands
- Bosnia
- Sudan
- Somalia
- Djibouti
- Kenya
- Uganda
- Ethiopia
- Tanzania
- Afghanistan
- Bulgaria
- Kosovo
- Macedonia
- Slovenia
- Romania
- Serbia
- Hungary
- Ukraine
- China
- Brazil.
|
- Egypt
- Philippines (corrected)
- Australia
- Indonesia
- Malaysia
- Norway
- South Africa
- Maldives
- Singapore
- Thailand
- France
- Algeria
- Tunis
- USA (contested)
- Atlanta, GA Eid on Tuesday
- California
- Parts of LA
- Parts of San Francisco
- Alabama (Tuesday)
- South Carolina (Tuesday)
- Michigan - Tuesday
- Texas - Tuesday
- New York
- Washington - Seattle-Tacoma - Tuesday
- Canada (contested)
- Toronto - Tuesday
- Tajikistan
- Uzbekistan
- Syria
- Spain
- Finland
- Iceland
- Netherlands
- Poland
|
- India
- Pakistan
- New Zealand
- Mauritius
- Iran
- Oman
- Sri Lanka
- Bangladesh
|
Update 2:
According to Phases of the moon tables by NASA, The new moon is born at SEPT. 29th at 8:12 UTC which is like 10 hours before the sighting took place in Saudi, which gives the idea that someone has actually indeed seen it a lot of credibility (since the moon is almost 10 hours old at the time of the sighting)
Update 3:
Apparently, this has confused the offecials at the Empire state building, so they will be shining thier lights in green for the second year in celebration of Eid al fitr Tuesday AND Wednesday
Happy Eid to everyone, hopefully, one day, within our lifetime we're going to celebrate one Eid in one day
Memories....
Happy Holidays Qwaider!
Will you take Wednesday off ?
Hani,
I'm taking tomorrow and Wednesday off since tomorrow is the first day of Eid ul fitr (for me) Since I'm one of the people who likes to show solidarity with my roots. Besides, I celebrate eid more with my family back home than the nonexistent, fragmented community over here
As for Wednesday, that's my birthday :)
Not true Mohammad
The Moon IS born on the 29th at 8AM UST. So based on calculations the moon IS already born (the number is from NASA). Which means that for people like us with 8 hours offset that's 16 hours until it's 8PM over here. There's a chance that we could see it here in north America using any elevated observatory.
Which casts doubt over the "most accurate" part
Besides, what a better occasion to show "unity" than this one when people are ALREADY celebrating eid (in the east and west)
ya me 2 tuesday,kul 3am wa antum be 5air and, happy birthday.
anything about Egypt???
Happy Feast
I wish we would all follow Mecca too at least in Ramadan because we follow it in Eid Al Adha anyways because of Hajj. In 2006 my husband fasted 31 days because he started Ramadan in one country and ended it in another, it was so funny.
بلا مجلس فقه بلا بطيخ
tomorrow it is!!
NOOOOOO, over here they DON'T FOLLOW even for Eid al Adha. I swear!
Chicka
Oo into salmeen
Far7an
و انتو بألف خير
يا الله ما احلى اسمك الجديد.. بيجنّن
and for me, Tomorrow it is
eid mubarak inshalla...
yes, NASA tells you when the moon geometerically passes the phase compared to Earth. ISNA has astronomical calculations on when is this phase "observable" from Earth. Observable angles and phases of moon are complicated to predict. This is why mathematical models were not very accurate for a while. But the current system used by ISNA/ICNA is considered to be most accurate, and I'm serious, it does rely on about 100 years of observations. It was "Tested" for the past 10 years, and it proved to predict observable new moon very well, and I think this is why lead ISNA/ICNA to use calculations.
I'm glad that here in Bay Area, CA, most people like to follow MCA (Muslim Community Association). MCA is a huge mosuqe that is run as a democracy. You sign up to become a member, and you vote every 2 years to elect an executive committee. The committee, along with the advisory board, makes decisions for the community. They have long decided to follow ISNA/ICNA on any US-wide decision, including Eid & moon-sighting. While few small mosques in the area are praying Eid on Tuesday, most of the muslims here will pray on Wednesday.
another nice thing about MCA: we don't have a permanent imam. the Juma committee invites 2 imams every friday to give juma khutba.
anyways... kol saneh wa inta salem.
Eid Mubarak to you and the Mrs :) hope you have a good one!
Explanation where Oct 1st comes from:
http://www.isna.net/events/Special-Announcement/FCNA-ANNOUNCES-EID-AL-FITR.aspx
The Moonsighting Committee Worldwide
http://moonsighting.com/mcw.html
ISNA define new moon as calculated from Makkah, which is usable for all of the world. The European & US Fiqh Councils have adopted this criteria.
It's a shame that there are Islamic bodies like ISNA that blew the unity of the Islamic world just because they want to show some character. It's truly shameful.
They've known that Muslims will be torn by this yet, they had too much ego to change their mind. Even if they were right. ... EVEN IF they were right! And they're not right!
I checked Starry Night software, and I was able to see the moon in WASHINGTON State at our longitude. Above the horizon. Which means all that stupid software they use is doing is giving false data.
Either way, Eid is today, if people want to celebrate it tomorrow, that's their business! Happy Eid Y'all
Eid Mubarak!
Your table of countries is very interesting. Thanks for the effort in documenting this.
BTW, 10 hours is too early to see the moon, even with a telescope, even for a late spring Moon in Mecca (where the birth would be seen in the Northern Hemisphere). In the autumn it is not plausible. The documented record for an early sighting of a lunar crescent, with a telescope, is 12.1 hours after New Moon; for naked-eye sightings, the record is 15.5 hours from New Moon.
See the investigation on this topic by Shk. Hamza Yusuf: http://www.zaytuna.org/articleDetails.asp?articleID=100
According to moonsighting.com, the first first photo snapped of this year's Shawwal moon (taken in New Zealand on Sep 30 ~ 8pm local time). It is just a sliver of light. You said that you saw the moon 10 hours prior at like +40 latitude?
I didn't see it with naked eye, I was using starry night. Which showed the moon over the horizon at ~1%.
On a clear night, at an ELEVATION the moon could be seen.
But either way, even if it wasn't seen, it's enough that half the Muslim world is gearing to celebrate for the rest to be united. EVEN if they were wrong! That's the true spirit of unity. It's not about one day more or one day less. It's about celebrating with the global neighborhood