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Not another Chrome review!

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:46:35 AM
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    • Currently 4.5/5 Stars.
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    Rated 4.5/5 stars (123 votes cast)

    I've read at least 15 different reviews regarding the new contender, Google Chrome, the new Internet browser. Adding another browser to the already extremely fragmented browser world. With Internet Explorer (6, 7, and now 8) in the lead, followed by FireFox (2.x and 3.x) and finally the rest of the crowd, Opera and Safari, Others barely register to be considered.

    While Google took the world by surprise when it launched the new browser. It comes as no surprise as this is exactly what Google is trying to do, Dominate the world around us. But that's not something bad! Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Sun, Oracle and just about any company you can imagine has the same goal. If they could of course.

    Now here's a deeper look into this amazing new browser... 

    Speed

    Chrome is amazingly fast, thanks to integration of V8, which causes all Javascript to run way faster, an order of magnitude from FireFox 3.0 or Opera (which is pretty fast too, but much slower than Chrome). Trailing is IE8 Beta 2.

    There's another trick the speed here, they appear to be compiling Javascript, which is a brilliant idea. It makes Javascript a whole lot faster when it's compiled. Something everyone should have done a million years ago.

    Standards compliance

    I don't know if anyone else said this, but I didn't read it anywhere yet, Google Chrome FAILED the ACID2 test (while FireFox and IE8B2 passed)

    No title bar

    This is one feature I have been SHOUTING to all the developers of FireFox, IE and Opera, PLEASE remove all the wasted stupid space that no one uses and GIVE ME my screen back! It's enough that individual web pages have tons of stupid ads that block me from the main content. Now I have to sacrifice 10px for stupid borders. Take them off .. ALL OFF!

    Chrome is so minimalistic that it doesn't even have a border on the sides or bottom. That's AWESOME!

    And yeah, I know I am running IE or FIREFOX, do you HAVE TO say that in EVERY window you create!!? Bravo Chrome!

    Isolated Tabs

    Nice touch, the tabs are completely isolated and each one runs in it's own sand-box. Which means, if one tab slows down, crashes or has malware running it will not affect any other tab. (I love this feature!!)

    Nice use of pictograms for addition coolness, with Animation!

    Downloads show an animated down arrow, and park on the bottom of your browser window for later use. Crashed tabs show a little mac-like icon indicating there was a crash. Even crashed plug-ins show a thick gold bar on the top of the browser with a sick-mac-like pictogram indicating that the plug-in has crashed

    (yes, I crashed the browser, and the plug-ins too :))

    Setup, installation and migration

    Setup went pretty fast on XP and Vista. On other OSes it didn't go that well. Funny how it went really well from FireFox but not from IE. (remember this later on)

    Migration was so quick and transparent. Passwords, favorites ..etc were all moved without much of a flicker!

    Cool Textarea size override

    This is one awesome feature, if you find the text box too small, you can now drag it to any size you want. Apparently it overrides html and allows the user to resize the boxes. Which is awesome because now you don't need Ajax to do this same thing

    Highlighted input boxes/textareas

    This is nice! You no longer need to highlight the field the user is typing in. This is marginal change, but it looks really good. Especially on those really dark blogs with dark input boxes

    Built in spell checking

    Just like Firefox 3.0 spell check is built in. Every Textarea, every string input. But there's one problem. It doesn't work inside iFrame which totally sucks because TinyMCE and other WYCIWYG editors all run in an iframe they use to override the textarea with

    No real "zoom" features

    CTRL-Mouse Scroll up and down or CTRL-+ and CTRL-(-) no longer zoom in and out (like IE7,IE8 and FireFox), instead you get the IE6 effect of text larger, text smaller. (not cool)

    Middle Mouse click to scroll does nothing

    In IE or FireFox, if you click the scroll button you get to move your mouse around while it scrolls around the page (excellent for long pages). Chrome lacks this functionality

    No ActiveX support

    Yeah, so don't think it will work with your corporate application. Right now, only IE is blessed (or is it cursed?) with ActiveX plug-ins

    Cool shortcut keys:

    CTRL-W still closes the window. CTRL-H for history in a nice Web display, CTRL-D for downloads and CTRL-B to toggle bookmarks on or off. CTRL-F to search within the page (more details below), CTRL-U to view source of the page (like FireFox)

    Cool in-page search

    Google, the search giant of course had to take that to the desktop. The new search box is part of the frame of Chrome, always hidden until you click CTRL-F or F3.  Then you will be given some basic statistics like. How many times the search object repeats in the page ...etc. It also automatically highlights the search term. And the coolest thing ever, it shows you where it is in the scroll bar by adding a little dash on the scroll bar. I found that cute!

    Uses IE settings?

    If you try to setup proxy information for your browser. Somehow it opens Internet Explorer's connection UI. 

    Uses only ONE text input field

    So if you're entering a URL like http://blog.sweetestmemories.com or Memories documented, you will get suggestions to get to the right place. Which is really cool!

    Built in debugger similar to firebug

    Want to view the source? Simple CTRL-U. Want to see more details on the elements in the page? Right-click and select "inspect"

    Blank page is really not blank!

    The best use of blank page is to display something the user "might" be looking for like, most recently/frequently visited sites. And that's exactly what is displayed in the blank page. But not just the page, but a miniature picture of it. Which is really cool! It will save the diehards a few keystrokes to get to their favorite site!

    Looks like IE!

    This is the selling point of Chrome in my book. The way it renders the pages is VERY similar to what IE does. In fact, I totally believe that had FireFox done this step in the past, they might have took over IE's share by now! Even though Chrome uses Webkit which supposed to render like Safari, it actually didn't render like Safari. It rendered more like IE. That's what I've been saying all along. The browser needs to be forgiving for sloppy web developers.

    But still, it failed to render the dialog boxes for TinyMCE correctly, and I had to fish around looking for the buttons (which were on the bottom) to click them

    Weird UI

    Now the UI of the frame itself is completely different than IE, and diverges from Microsoft's philosophy of providing you with everything at your fingertips. This might not be convenient for all users

    Small footprint

    It took less than 1 minute to download the whole thing. Why did it take IE8 46 minutes to download is completely beyond me! But IE8 did something no other browser did. It checked my computer for viruses and malware in a special mode. So I'd give it that!

    In Memory, it takes at most less than half that of IE. Which is another indication to how bloated IE is! Damn legacy!

    Tiny status bar

    This is so amazing. When you hover over a link or something. You see the details in a tiny strip at the bottom of the browser window that is barely visible unless you're looking for it. Awesome! Give me back those 10 pixels but don't take away my functionality!

    Browse in private

    Similar to IE8's inPrivate feature. Chrome has a mode where it will not remember anything. Not the history, not the cookies or anything from a session.

    Smart progress indicator

    When you're sending a request the progress indicator slowly rotates counterclockwise while receiving from the server, it rotates rapidly clockwise. Brilliant!

    Poor security

    Yep, just as with any quick to prototype project. Security vulnerabilities started surfacing only HOURS after the release! But, that's the nature of the beast! Chrome by default suffers from the same issues that Safari (another browser relying on Webkit) suffers from. Lets not call it Poor security, but rather, unproven security

    Compatibiliy issues

    Many sites are not rendering correctly. Many of the older sites are showing wierd UI and become totally unusable at times.

    Conclusions

    I am totally in love with Chrome, in fact, it has replaced all my other browsers as my #1 browser. I'm already using it alone on all my machines

    The next battle in the browser world is gearing up right now. It will be between Chrome and IE. With Chrome doing to FireFox what IE did to Netscape Navigator. The battle is going to rage between IE and Chrome. With each side adding features to better compete for the hearts and minds of the users. Microsoft is going to rely on it's monopoly in the desktop field to get more people onto IE. While Google is going to rely most on it's monopoly in the search business to push Chrome. At the expense of everyone else. Soon the "reclaim the web, use FireFox" buttons are going to be showing Chrome. Across millions of sites.

    One thing is certain. When these big players fight... we "the users" win!

    PS, for the stupid people in the Google commercial claiming that browsers are doing things now that they were not designed to do. Please shut-up before you look more stupid than you are. Web-Chat was introduced in 1997. Web-Videos in 1999. So excuse me, there isn't a single browser that doesn't support these features, unless you're comparing Chrome to text based Lynx. Exactly what happens when you ask a developer with still developing human skills to do marketting!

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    *sigh* why are you making me like it?
    • #2
    • KJ
    • Windows Chrome  Browser
    • Said
    • On: 9/4/2008 8:23:00 AM
    I was actually appalled when it didn't play web videos or even told me I was missing a plugin to use Facebook's upload photo feature (and I thought that was Java!!!)

    Anyhow I love it I just hope the cool addons of firefox get here - namely adbolock so I don't have to see the "stupid ads that clog websites" cough. Ahem.
    • #3
    • yaser
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 9/4/2008 2:37:27 PM
    wow, that is the most extensive and technical review I've read , I am inclined to test the new browser and I am sure in the future it will be a major force as you mentioned .
    Thank you folks. As you know, there are always improvements, and hopefully we'll see more of them in the next revisions
    • #5
    • Jad
    • Linux OS Firefox Browser
    • Said
    • On: 9/4/2008 8:12:37 PM
    On other OSes it didn't go that well.
    ya zalameh betet-khawat enta? they didn't release it for any OS other than windows yet eh!

    7asak mortazaqa ya man!
    I am talking about Windows 7. It's windows and it didn't work well
    It also didn't work well for Windows server 2008. So .. No, I'm not "itkhawwating" I promise
    • #7
    • Jad
    • Linux OS Firefox Browser
    • Said
    • On: 9/4/2008 10:08:57 PM
    حسيتك مرتزقه من علوج مايكروسوفت
    بس كان لازم تقول
    On other versions of Windows it didn't go that well.
    • #8
    • Naser
    • Windows Chrome  Browser
    • Said
    • On: 9/6/2008 1:58:12 AM
    ya man I'm having this problem w mesh fahem sho el essa :D I simply can't delete my msgz on facebook with this browser ! la men el inbox,wala men nafs el msg :/
    r u facing this as well ?
    the weird UI alone is a deal-breaker for me. Although admittedly it's still in Beta, and I've only used it for less than an hour. Even if they fix that in the final, like KJ said I'm too addicted to all the FF plugins to be able to go elsewhere until those plugins go there too which is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
    I'll have to agree with you on most of the topics you've mentioned, but there is one thing to keep in mind it's in BETA version, the browser looks great, and although some pages are totally missed up, but unlike IE8 at least while viewing the exact same pages, i can still locate the browsing bar for the web-pages on the top not disappeared some where in the bottom !!!
    Jad
    No no ... allah yib3idna 3anhom

    Naser
    I don't "facebook" that much :) So I'm not facing this problem ;)

    Hani
    Most plugins are probably going to be migrated. Who wants to be the last on the new and Shiny Chrome? huh? :)

    Shaer
    No my friend. With Google, EVERYTHING is infinitely in "Beta" mode, so their beta needs to be taken with a little bit of scrutiny don't you think?
    No I'm not sure if you're talking about IE8Beta2 operating correctly or Chrome doing it right. One thing is sure, both appear to be heading towards a head to head match
    its been awhile since my last visit...you're getting great in reviewing things...anyway, I totally agree the browser is spectacular..Awesome
    LOL ! i was waiting for a tech-wiz answer mesh smart mouth one :p
    ino wuts the technology behind it wut do i know u know better :D
    anyway,i have 4 emails i must keep track of all day long so i can't replace the FF for now .bless the email notification add on.
    and its been crashin much :/ i usually watch 3,4 vids at the time,checkin blogs,browsin in general,w kteer be3alle2 ma3e :/ they better fix those annoying things soon.
    Hi Qwaider,

    You mentioned the bright side of it, but didnt you notice its EULA prior to install it?
    1. You didn't mention the fact that Google records everything you type in Chrome, not to mention every website you visit (even in the invisible mode and even if you turn the tracking off).

    2. About the title bar, in Opera (still my favorite, even with a quicker Chrome) you can turn all bars off except the main menu (file, edit, view, bookmarks, etc.) which is not much bigger than that of Chrome. You can even hide the tab-bar or even the address bar!

    3. The speed in Chrome IS amazing. I have to admit that. Even the download speed from rapidshare is much better than that of other browsers.

    For the time being, I have stopped using it for its lack of security. Let's see what the final version brings.
    • #16
    • Sunny
    • Windows Firefox Browser
    • Said
    • On: 2/17/2009 9:15:41 PM
    • SpamScore=[1]
    This is just hilarious, you think Chrome really is better than Firefox? Some of the stuff you pointed out here are actually stuff that I do not like about Chrome and some are just silly like the browser not displaying the name of it. I especially HATE the highlighted input boxes, because there's no way to get rid of itwhen you're trying to put a custom background that would have rounded corners or your own glow effect. Okay, so you can turn off toolbars, setup your own status bar thing with an addon perhaps, or do whatever you want with a theme or addon. Also, have you ever heard of fullscreen mode? A person like you would love it. The private browsing feature is useless for me because I delete all my data when I close my browser (you can make it ask you to delete private data when you close firefox). Firefox probably is the fastest to setup. Firefox is as fast as Chrome, and sometimes faster or slower depending on the site. Besides, it all depends on the servers and the page themselves. Firefox follows all standards modes, and I'm sorry it's not as forgiving as IE but if you design your page correctly, you want it to be displayed that way. Also if you haven't noticed, there is a Quirks Mode in Firefox if you do not include a Doctype so if you're a sloppy coder I don't think there's a reason to include a doctype at all. Besides, why promote sloppy coding? Sites such as htmldog.com teach it to you the right way from the start so there shouldn't be any problems. I'm fine with the blank page, and just as the name suggests, I don't want other stuff on my BLANK page. If you don't want a blank page, get an addon for god's sakes. Firefox is extremely customizable. Built in stuff such as the debugger are great, but not exactly necessary if you're say not a webdesigner. If you are, just download Firebug and you're good to go. Hmm, in page search? Ever heard of a site search? Anyone? There are addons where you can search the site you're on or use the google search bar already in Firefox and do the url:bla.com thing where it will only search that site. Isolated tabs are a great idea, and hopefully Firefox adds this in their next update, which come often due to the many open source coders working on it. So as I wrap this up, don't get me wrong here because Chrome is an awesome browser, but to say better than Firefox? Just don't go there. IE has already failed and there's literally no hope for it unless it suddenly gets a standard mode such as Firefox's or better. It is mostly used, yes, but doesn't mean it's the best. I still code my site to make it work in IE or the best I can do with it but really it's just a major headache.

    Sorry for the long post but I just couldn't let this one go.

    P.S.- Why do the words become delayed when I try typing here.
    • #17
    • Qwaider
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 2/17/2009 10:08:16 PM
    • SpamScore=[-38.79]
    Not sure, why you're getting the delay, must be one of your 237 add-ons you have for firefox :P

    Chrome is much faster, there isn't really anything that you can do to disqualify the statistics. So let this one go
    Firefox is way more customizable but that's only because it's been around longer, there's an "add-on" for just about everything you can imagine. Yet, many of the things I mention are actually already in there for chrome.
    For me, mostly use Chrome or IE. Nothing else qualifies, I trust no one else. Sorry, but that's my personal preference. Speed/performance wise, Chrome and Opera are unparalleled, for flexibility it's Firefox. For everything else, it's IE. I still use ActiveX controls for some sites, and must use IE

    By the way, IE8 appears to be rock solid.

    Firefox is going to be facing some tough times ahead. As Google eats more and more of their share. You can continue to marvel at Firefox but without proper funding it's going to soon be starving for resources and eventually dies. Sadly, just like Netscape navigator
    firefox is going down and now Mozilla start have panic from the new monster of google chrome the un belivibale number of add-on that came out for chrome showing that
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