No prayer for the nail polisher!

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A scantly dressed lady was giving advice to Maioush the other day, while bragging how she doesn't apply nail polish because, "she prays"!

I didn't know if I should laugh of cry when I heard that. I mean, it's cool, people can do whatever they want with their lives, and it's fine if they don't want to walk around naked -then praying- and taking the emotional high-grounds while talking to people who do the inconceivable sin of wearing, nail polish!

I just couldn't think of anything but, how ... hypocritical!

Warning: Girly post!!

As many would tell you, it's permissible before prayers to just wipe your shoes and pray wearing (provided that you were clean and pure before wearing them) and I just couldn't help but think, how this is exactly the same thing. So why can't women just keep the nail polish on and perform ablution without much fuss?

It's ok to do it while you have Henna on! It's OK to do it while you have your jewelry on! So why not when Nail polish is on!!? It doesn't make any sense!

Finally, I don't think anyone can claim the moral high-grounds because they pray! Even if they dressed conservatively! But if prayers didn't really help people be considerate while dressing (which is completely their own deal), I guess it won't make them considerate to "sinners" with nail polish!

It's sad how everything wonderful in Islam gets twisted and molested in the most grotesque of ways.

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#1
Batoul
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On: 8/7/2008 3:19:08 AM

I'll put everything aside because I don't consider myself anywhere near being a "good Muslim" but I do pray and in order to pray I make sure my nails are polish-free before I perform my wudu2. Just a thought, no argument here.. whats the big deal about removing the nail polish anyway? I'm not about to question religiously el fatwa and bid3as and so on for a stupid subject. There are more important things to question in religion so I just take them off and pray. In anyway, Allah yt2abal :)

#2
Qwaider
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On: 8/7/2008 3:46:45 AM

You know Batoul, if you do your nails, and end up paying like $50 for something that will last from 3aser to Maghreb, then there is hardship here. Something that is beyond the leniency and tolerance of Islam!
I also want to know WHY do people have to remove it!? Where is the part that makes this break anything related to performing prayer!?

So you're covering something "extra" just like men cover up more than the Awra, so what's the big deal? Why can't women pray with nail polish on! This is the bottom line.

#3
nido
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On: 8/7/2008 4:45:04 AM

What I know is that even if u wipe yr shoes before praying you still can't have them on for more than 24 hours...and same goes with nail polish...
So if you wear nail polish you can still make wudo2 and pray with it on for 24 hours after that you should remove it!
Some fatwas say that you should not make wodu2 with polish on, others say it's OK, and the rest say it's ok as long as it's during the 24 hours after you wear it! so I personaly go with the last :p wasat ya3ni! Allaho a3lam!

#4
Batoul
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On: 8/7/2008 7:12:41 AM

A lady could pay $50 and have them on for the week monthly and not be bothered with removing them because she doesn't need to pray. For other days, its do-able to apply some at home and remove them without "hardship" lets not complicate things, its just a manicure :) el Islam deen yeser bas kaman.. sacrifices need to be made at points, life is a give and take situation.

Topic : Ablution and nail polish
Question:
It is said that ablution is not valid if a woman wears nail-polish. At the same time, it is said that ablution is valid if one wipes over one's stockings, instead of washing one's feet. If I apply my nail-polish after I take my grand ablution at the end of my menstrual period, why must I remove it before renewing my ablution, if I do not have to remove my stockings for the same ablution?

Answer:
If you have nail polish on, then you have to take it off before everyablution that you take, even if you are making ablution after doing a grandablution (or ghusl) which is a complete shower. This is because water cannotpenetrate through the nail polish. And one of the conditions for the wudubeing valid is that no part of the body (that is required to be washedduring wudu) must remain dry. As for why we don't have to take off thestockings, it is simply because the Prophet of Allah [pbuh] said we don'thave to as long as we wore them when we were in a state of Ablution.

Question:
Can one pray with nail polish on their nail?

Answer:
Yes, a Muslim woman can pray withher nailpolish on. However, when she takes her ablution (WuduÕ), sheMUST have it off otherwise, the ablution is not valid, and the prayer isnot valid either. This position is agreed upon among all of the Muslimscholars. Therefore, a woman should first have the nailpolish off, washfor the ablution, put nailpolish on, and pray. Thank you for asking andGod knows best.

Source:
IslamiCity

#5
Qwaider
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On: 8/7/2008 8:11:42 AM

Speaking in regards of the "fatwa" by IslamiCity, this is a classic case of completely missing the point of the Prophet PBUH. When he did that specific act, he prvided precendant that if you wore something while you're pure, you can continue to wear it to become pure!

#6
MD
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On: 8/7/2008 8:50:28 AM

you are very right Qwaider, I believe that if a person could think that he/she needs to ask a "Moftee" for such things (too silly issues), (believing that his/her brain is not enough to think it alone), then she/he is too young to start worshiping and believing in a God. So my advice is to wait some years till they grow up and understand what religion is.
The problem is that mostly Muslims learn religion in the hell-heaven way and this is the result. they are too lazy to think, things are just "this is allowed" "this is not allowed" for them. by the way i think its ok to have nail polisher anytime, even though i don't like how it looks like :P.

#7
KJ
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On: 8/7/2008 8:51:11 AM

You know, these things must be decided over a nice meal of mansaf.

#8
Tamara
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On: 8/7/2008 9:30:30 AM

Q- I personally hate to follow anything that does not make sense to me, but still I cannot argue that what sounds rigid for me is actually so, scholars who issue the fatwa -even if we don't agree with them- have a high level of religious education, thus non of us can just say, hell what they say does not make sense, and act as one see fit. this leads to total chaos. but any one can simply research the issue and discuss it with the people who say its not OK.

#9
Jano
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On: 8/7/2008 10:56:08 AM

Well, I personally think she can have them on and pray as long as when she did wudo2 it was off, and then "i think" no harm with wudo2 again while they are on (providing that they were off on first wudo2), something else, do women keep nail polish for more than a day or two? hmmm im not too into nail polish because im lazy but if i was to put nail polish ill take it off daily (this is what i see fatoom do hehe)

Anyway, eventually its up to people, they know whats better, if i feel nail polish will make my wudo2 less complete then i should remove them. simple as that..

7aseh 7ali ballashet akhabbes :D bs this is what i think :S

#10
Jerusalem
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On: 8/8/2008 4:47:31 PM

See Qwaider I do understand your frustration of the way this lady brought up the issue to Maioush (she's trying to brag about herself praying and tell Maioush implicitly that Maioush doesnt' pray as if this lady is just praying to show off by the way), some people are retarded, and their practices represent them and their inner values only but not Islam... Practice might differ and deviate from the principles and teachings.
Now refer to Islam Way for a couple of fatwas on the subject:
http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Fatawa&iw_a=view&fatwa_id=14661
http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Fatawa&iw_a=view&fatwa_id=1272
I think maybe Maioush could do a manicure in the beauty center and get used on applying the nail polish home... She can even remove it when she needs to do wudo2. We all, I mean females who apply nail polish and pray, always do that.
Inshallah this would be quite helpful brother :)

#11
Jerusalem
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On: 8/8/2008 5:00:53 PM

I understand your frustration from this irritating lady's behavior, but remember brother, those people represnt themselves and only themselves. Practices might differ and deviate from the true teachings and principles of Islam... However; this does not render less objectivity or validity to the principles.
Now read the following fatwas:
http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Fatawa&iw_a=view&fatwa_id=1272
http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Fatawa&iw_a=view&fatwa_id=14661
By the way this lady was trying to brag in front of Maioush that she prays that's all. In fact it seems those types of people don't do it for the sake of worshipping Allah, maybe just to show off, I don't know really.
I suggest for Maisouh that she does the whole manicure in the beauty center ut applys the nail polish after wodo2, and when she needs to do another wodo2 she could remove it easily with the nail polish remover.
All ladies who pray and like to apply nail polish do that fluently :)
Inshallah this would be quite helpful :)

#12
Jerusalem
Said
On: 8/8/2008 5:58:48 PM

Soooooooooo sorry for the replication :(
There's a problem with my computer.

#13
Hani Obaid
Said
On: 8/10/2008 1:38:37 AM

I'm the last person to be an expert on Islam, but nail polish can be considered a form of make-up so it would depend if one is praying in public at a mosque, or in private.

#14
Um Omar
Said
On: 8/13/2008 12:08:27 PM

Besides the points on wudu, which are totally valid, you should consider that nail polish attracts attention, just like make-up. If a person is addicted to nail polish, and cannot leave it at this time, they should use it only when they are not able to pray. That would solve one of the issues, but not all. But in the end, your level of Iman will decide whether this is really an issue or not.

#15
Qwaider
Said
On: 8/13/2008 6:12:39 PM

I don't think anyone can gauge the level of Iman. Performing rituals, following rules are not pillars of Iman for Iman is to believe in God, his Angels, his books, his prophets, fate, destiny and judgement day. That's what's mentioned in the Quran as the 7 pillars of Iman. As you can see they don't include nail polish.
As for the five pillars of Islam, again, they don't mention or discriminate against nail-polish.
Muslim women are allowed to pray wearing makeup (as long as they wore it after ablution) so why not nail polish, which is more permanent than make up!??
Also, women are allowed to pray after coloring their skin with the color of Henna, so why not nail polish? See, it doesn't make any sense. And apparently people want to be strict just to be "thought-of" as Mu2mineen!

#16
4EVER4GOTTON
Said
On: 8/22/2008 6:15:55 PM

yes polish use to be nice especially the red one but thats history nowdays

#18
Qwaider
Said
On: 8/26/2008 7:30:44 PM

Whisperer,
I respectfully disagree. I strongly believe that in this day and age, Wudo has become a ritual. Men "scholars" try to make it harder on women just because they think this brings them closer to god AND because they believe that nail-polish is haram to begin with. I don't think it's like that and I don't think that it needs someone with 5 PHD's from Azhar to tell me something as simple as that!
If it's CLEAN, it's Taher! Simple! 99.9% of the "Qualified scholars" know absolutely nothing beyond the confines of what they read in books. Qualified in my books were last seen in the Islamic world a 1000 years ago. When they were THINKING outsider of the box. Unlike now, where superstition and undocumented half-facts rule. It's sad, but this is exactly the situation is right now.

Now regarding the second point where you argue that performing rituals will bring you closer to god. Allow me to strongly and very violently disagree with you. If that was the case, then why would god say "Wailon Lil musalleen, allatheen hom 3an salatihim Sahoon". It's CLEAR that many people pray, and have little to nothing when it comes to Iman.
The practices, don't solidify your Iman, it's the other way around. Iman DRIVES you to practice the rituals! You do them out of your Iman.

Who said it's not enough to believe? How did we get to this point!?

And in your last paragraph, although I respect the fact that you're a convert, that gives you absolutely no right to think that you know Islam more than anyone else. In fact, not even the Imam or Alazhar can claim that he's more mu2men or has searched more into Iman more than anyone else.
Additionally, this doesn't mean that everyone who is born into Islam doesn't search, think and concludes for themselves. In fact, I believe and this is not arrogance or anything. But I strongly believe that I have what it takes to make these decisions on my own and come up with the right Fatwa that god accepts and with the help and guidance of god I find these ideas more accurate than those of Shaikh Al Azhar who is, after all, only human. And prone to mistakes just like any of us!

Allow me to also relieve you that, not everything you've done before you became Muslim is sinful! If you did good, it has been taken in your favor. If you have done bad, it has been taken against you. Being without sin is not monopolized by Muslims. God DOES accept the good deeds of any human.

#19
4ever4gotton
Said
On: 9/15/2008 10:43:38 PM

ppl who argue with fiq and shariah and quaran and try to be innovative and try to change islams face just because it may not work for their life style or they want so badly to be like christians or westerners HAVE A BIG PROBLEM soon they will argue in why we cannot drink and smoke hashish. dam wake up nail polish is haram to wear BECAUSE THE NAILS REMAIN SO DIRTY FROM SHITAN OK ALSO WUDU MAKES NO DAM SENSE IF IT CANNOT GO THROUGH THE NAIL POLISH HENNA IT CAN GO THROUGH TO THE NAIL BED SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE ARE CLEAN BUT NAIL POLISH WONT EVEN ACCPT THE WATER, THERFORE IT IS LIKE YOU DID NOTHING. LETS NOT ARGUE WITH WHY OR SOME IMAM YOU DONT LIKE OR HOW IS ISLAM HOLDS US BACK. IT IS ALL CRAP.PURE BIDAA THATS ALL

#20
Qwaider
Said
On: 9/15/2008 11:01:16 PM

4ever4gotten
No this is not bidaa or anything like that. This is a very valid point that doesn't make any sense!
First, Nailpolish is an inorganic material that doesn't allow anything to grow in it. It has a huge Keton concentration (Acetone) and therefore nothing lives in it. It has a pigmant and becomes alomst permenant addition to the "NAIL" not the skin. Then it drys which makes it a dry matter over a dry matter and that is simply and purely pure during prayer, just like your cloths
Second, nail polish doesn't hide dirt underneath it. The dirt would be below the nails, which means it doesn't matter if you have nail polish or not. Dirt goes there

Third, allow me to educate you on Islam which I have studied for 12 years and have read more books than you can think of about Fiqh and shariah. Ratholing around minor issues like this is EXCATLY what a Bid3a is. So unless you have something REALLY respectful and SMART, I suggest you don't reply back

#21
4ever4gotton
Said
On: 9/15/2008 11:22:12 PM

NO PRAYER FOR PPL WITH CLOSED MINDS

#22
Qwaider
Said
On: 9/16/2008 12:26:45 AM

Ditto!

#23
Anonymous
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On: 9/15/2009 8:18:48 PM
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i like your way of thinking Qwaider! I had someone today tell me in the masjid that i cannot pray with my nails done! i just have a layer of gel over my nails which is same as nail polish and i felt so guilty so i google searched it. i dont intend to do haram but i just like to look after my nails!

#24
jabir hussain
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On: 4/17/2010 2:03:36 PM
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people have to remember the purpose of making wudu is to clense yourself right! nailpolish has many ingredients like alcohol and many other unknown ingredients! so why take that risk wouldnt you much prefer to be safe than sorry? its a little sacrifice im sure you all can do it for allah! also henna must be permissable to have on while prayer because its naturally made from leaves on a tree.

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