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[Blog About Palestine] Palestine, the bloody tearful eye of the nation

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:36:11 PM
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    A lot has been said, and will be said, about the most painful gem in the history of world. No single peace of land has been more contested in History. It' even proven that the very same land of Palestine was the same spot where two human species fought for the first time. The Neanderthals and the Cromagnons over 40,000 years ago.

    The bloodshed has not stopped since then...

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    We are Still here! And we will never forget...
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    What used to be armed mob, fought and won battles against the united armies of the Arab nations. The bitter defeat left the world split. 60 years later, the Arab nations are still not fully recovered from the devastating blow. It wasn't the armed Militias that won the war, it was simply, our own failures

    Our failure to listen, when all the indicators ware beating us on the head, with the impending danger

    Our failure to take action, on so many occasions. It's not even funny!

    Our failure to assist the right way. But rather, looking at our points of strength to convert them to our greatest weaknesses

    Our failure to forgive one another, to stand united, to overlook our pity differences and maintain view of the bigger picture. Or at least, forgiving with time...

    Our failure to understand the rules of the new games. The wars being waged not in battle fields but in the back allies of the world capitals. In the media.

    Our failure to realize that there are certain actions that should never be undertaken, no matter how desperate.

    Our failure to realize that futile death is indistinguishable from madness, foolishness.

    Our failure to realize that everyone, every single drop of blood, counts.

    Our failure to remove the blindfolds of demagogy rulers that seek to please not the nation, but their own ambitions

    We have failed. We failed the cause, we failed the nation. As Palestine continues to bleed under the cold hard boots of the military occupation. Victimizing it's existence as if, it's a sheep in an ocean of Arab wolves.

    I would take a smart sheep over a million dumb wolf. Make that 300 million stupid wolves.

    What hurts the most is that out of these 300 million stupid wolves, there are plenty of smart ones. But they suffer from ridicule, mockery, torture, oppression, unjustly arrests and killing for most. But expulsion for the lucky few. While the remaining 300 million end up with a bunch of imbeciles ruling the packs..

    We will never forget our home land. The price of tile from my father's house is still his most treasured belonging, so is a little jar of Jaffa's sand, and my grandparents house key.

    Both my parents were born in Jaffa, they lived there until they were kicked out but nothing more than fear, fear of the armed gangs of the Jews known as Hagana and Irgun, with thier reputation of killing, maiming, raping and stealing everything in their way, with documented cases of villages completely perishing for nothing more than bordering a settlement that was created by force on their own land. Dier Yasin. The story of the same systemic massacres reverberated throughout the Palestinian home land which made the simple families of Jaffa feel that they had no choice but to flee.. by which they have committed the biggest mistake in the history of Palestine..

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    Where did you find out about the Neanderthals and the Cromagnons ?

    It seems like we're even more scattered now than we were then. Fadi recently made a sad observation that the colonials may have saved us all some bloodshed by dividing all the lands for us.

    When you say it was a mistake to flee yaffa, would you have preferred they stayed and risk death?
    They couldn't have killed everyone!!
    Most of the stories I hear is that they were "lied to" by the Arab Nations.
    While some other political forces (I think only the Palestinian Communist Party) at the time, agreed to the UN division. Then urged people to remain. They didn't convince many to stay...

    For the Neanderthals and Cromagnons, this was just released in a Documentary called: Clash of the Cavemen. which aired Sunday May 11th. Where the anthropological scholars present fossil evidence that Neanderthals have actually fought and won in Palestine, only to be get extinct later on in Europe (almost 15000 years later)
    These were the mistakes of generations of the past, sometimes i look at us today and i see hope, others i look and see the times have changed but the people haven't. However, overall, i am optimistic.

    Great Article! Thanks Qwaider.
    • #4
    • Mona
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    • On: 5/15/2008 7:08:33 AM
    I agree with you Qwaider that we were lied. They (The English) encouraged Dad and his parents to leave Jaffa and promised them to come back to their home. It was our big fault to believe them :(
    May God bless Palestine and all Palestinians over the world.
    Thanks for good article.
    • #5
    • Nada
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    • On: 5/15/2008 8:58:08 AM
    When Israel was founded 60 years ago, Israelis were confident that old people will DIE and the young generation will FORGET, we will forget where our origin comes from, what is our history; however, they were wrong, we could not forget, and those who died left us a legacy , a mission, what are we doing? It might be insignificant, we might be just writing words, reflecting emotions, but what matters that we still have feeling and emotions, we still feel sad for our loss, we are still bleeding when we remember our history, the "Nakbeh", even after the 60 years, we could not forget and we will never forget, I hope that our children will not forget too, I hope that we will be able to feed them the love of Palestine, I pray to God that they will be better, stronger and make a difference, and I do hope that they will teach their children the love and the respect of the country we lost, even if we are not living there…
    • #6
    • MD
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    • On: 5/15/2008 10:28:21 AM
    Ya they were ignorant to some extent, but every mistake can be corrected, the later to correct it, is the harder.
    • #7
    • KJ
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    • On: 5/15/2008 11:14:42 AM
    Samer, whether or not it is the biggest mistake done in Palestine, you can't truly hold it against them. Their choice was either to flee or be killed. If they had stayed their ground and got killed, ma 7adan feeh yefti with what the outcome would have been - hay 7ekmet rabbak. They saved themselves and gave birth to newer generations and more people to uphold the culture. If all Palestinians stayed inside and all got killed, they'd exist only in history books now.

    Your very presence here is enough proof. Think of how much you have changed the people around you, physically or virtually, the online community, etc... and what might have happened if you were not given the chance to be given birth to.

    We don't choose our parents and we don't choose their actions, even if we end up suffering the consequences. What we do have a choice in is to either burden ourselves and let it hinder our progress or stand up and march forward to make things better, for us and for generations to come.

    The world WILL change a person at a time and we're facilitating it with posts like these.

    Thanks for sharing :)
    THE "NAQBA" IS JUST ANOTHER ARAB LIE

    The land of Israel was never yours and never will be.
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    • KJ
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    • On: 5/15/2008 1:49:16 PM
    Mafish Falastin:

    The Nakba is an Arab lie now? That's the most absurd thing I have heard! Israel comes and knocks down doors, force people out of their homes and sit on a land to call it theirs, and you say the Nakba is a lie?

    Let me tell you what is a lie. A lie is when Arabs are called terrorists, when Israelis are mass murdering - no sorry - eradicating the Palestinian population without any discrimination. An ARMY is killing off men and women and children. A lie is when you tell yourself that you are entitled to this land exclusively.

    Israel fabricates history, give birth to terrorists outside while they themselves are being terrorists in Palestine, and then you come and tell us that Israel will never be ours?

    Well you are right - Israel is not ours. Palestine is ours. Palestine is the very land you are writing that comment from.
    we cannot judge our forefathers for fleeing... they had literally been left with nothing else to fight with. The horror they faced was unimaginable and they werent to know that there would be no return. They honestly thought they were on their way to the west bank to regroup with the arab armies that they thought would show up and help them.  

    yeah we messed u[, and worse are still messing up. time we stopped dont you think?
    KJ,

    It is a lie. "Palestine" is a lie. You chose war and terror instead of a state.

    You lost.

    It's over now. Time for you to move on- or continue suffering, and far worse.

    Your choice.

    Israel will be here either way.

    That's what they taught your racist, "children murdering", "god chosen" school?
    Well, Both my parents were BORN in Palestine, and whether you believe it or continue to deny it. It doesn't really make any difference.
    There's a great wall of Apartheid out there, very close from where you live, that says .. Palestine exists. See it?

    We will outlive you, we will out grow you and one day soon, we will out number you inside of Israel itself. Just wait and see.
    If it's not by us, then our children. If not them, our grand children. Even if it takes 5000 years, we will return against your wishes if needed. But we will never forget.

    Qwaider: even if we (the refugees) dont return the few arabs that remained in the '48 lands will soon overtake the jewish population in numbers,as a simple result of them having a higher birth rate, so soon enough it will cease to be the pristine Zionist state that they so desite. so it will take more like 20 years.
    • #14
    • KJ
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    • On: 5/15/2008 6:45:10 PM
    Mafish Falastin, sorry - Mafish Israel, Palestine is definitely not a lie. We definitely did not choose war instead of state. As I recall correctly, Palestinians were living peacefully before Israel decided they are God's Chosen ones and decided why not kill every single human on Earth, starting with Palestinians.

    It is you people who chose war instead of letting Palestinians be. It is you guys who are dividing the whole world and making more wars, ruining most economies, and wreaking havoc with the US backing you up.

    You know what's pathetic? Is that with all your guns and ammo and the whole US government backing your genocidal cause, you still run away from a Palestinian child throwing rocks at you.

    Israel is a non-existent state. Just because a map is printed in the US and labels the land as Israel doesn't make it yours. All maps on this side of the world labels it Palestine and it IS ours.

    I think it is time for YOU to move on. Apparently all you were able to do in those 60 years is just prove to the world that it isn't your place and that the whole world hates you for what you're doing.
    the truth is very painful but it's still the truth .....

    all what we get is hope nothing else ...
    • #16
    • KJ
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    • On: 5/15/2008 8:27:26 PM
    SimSim, hope is the start of all things. If we were all in despair, we wouldn't take the initiative to come out with this wonderful blog movement.

    The truth is the truth yes, we are currently occupied. But we bloggers WILL change the world and from today's posts we did change a lot!

    We angered some and we gave more hope to some.

    Why do I feel like I am the only optimistic one here!

    Face facts: Allah is returning the nation of Israel to its land, and the more you try to fight against Allah's will, the worse it gets for you.

    THIS IS APARTHEID

    THIS IS THE ANTITHESIS OF APARTHEID

    And Nazis? Well, you guys win in that category too:


    Allah hates this.

    So my advice to you, dear cousins, is enjoy what is yours, stop trying to steal what isn't, and stop making Allah angry. For your own sakes.

    Because it will only get worse for you if you continue.

    You're kidding, aren't you? This Zionist bullshit is too weak to stand for a single moment against the overwhelming proof of how Israel is in defiance of god's will. In every way.
    You site a Zionist site that glorifies the genocide murderers you call IDF and your own terrorist government that terrorises millions in the name of security?
    How about you comply with the 69 UN Resolution who found Israel guilty of everything from Genocide to terrorism.
    You call people who resist terrorists!? Look in the mirror and you will know who is the real terrorists!
    Playing on the emotions of the poor ... But that's your way, you lied and deceived your way to power, and you will not stop lying to keep it!

    All I have to say to you is.. Liars, THIEVS and genocide mass murderers.

    What did you do to the hundreds in Qana? Remember Rachel Corey? Remember USS Liberty where your IDF murdered AMERICAN Navy Sailors IN COLD BLOOD! But that all pales in comparison to what you have done to the Palestinian people ..

    Allah's wrath is coming down on you .. soon! And we the Palestinians, will NEVER forget, and we will be back. Not to murder you like you think. But to take what is historically, and rightfully ours .. OUR Homeland!
    KJ: Ok u r not the only one :) .... but we just can't hide the pain
    Mafish falastin: I wonder why u r very angry balash tefga3 (if u can read arabish)

    and who told u that we don't like things to get worst ?!! 3alena w 3ala a3da2na
    • #21
    • KJ
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    • On: 5/17/2008 1:34:39 AM
    Mafish Israel, you DO know that the people you defend are the "maghdoob 3alayhim" (English: Those who have God's wrath upon them) in the Quran in the very first Soorah (chapter).

    So don't put words in God's mouth. You're not His representative to tell us what does and doesn't make Him angry.

    You seem like an act of desperation throwing your insults whilst you see the final blow coming right in your face.
    • #24
    • Passerby
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    • On: 9/9/2008 2:15:22 AM
    1) The Jews did not commit genocide in Palestine. Arab population increasing 6 times in Israel since 1948 is proof enough.  (remember, when genocide happens the population subjected to it decreases, and often, disappears)

    2) The only racists in here are Arabs who don't allow Jews to live in North Africa for example, where Jews lived long before Arab armies swept the land in 6th century C.E.   Jewish state grants equal rights to its Arab citizens.    

    3) Keeping grudges, calling Jews "the ones who have God wrath upon them" and promising to destroy Israel exposes your own genocidal intentions.

    I wish you to be healed from your hatred and accept Peace, instead of preaching 5000 year war.  Believe it or not Jews are Good People, just like the most Arabs are.
    1) The UN has documented cases of mass massacres in Palestine. The Arab population has been subject to all sort of atrocities, let's also not forget the 750,000 documented refugees pushed out by force from their own homes. An act of genocide by UN definition.
    The population didn't increase because of the occupation, but despite it!
    Of course, the recent siege of Gazza and holding 1.2 Million people hostage in ghetto like conditions is another example of genocide, that is in progress till this day

    2) Arabs, and Muslims allowed and coexisted with the Jews for 1400 years. In Spain, (Andalusia) The Jews even fled with the Arabs out of Spain on the fear of what the Christians would do to them. Jews STILL live in Egypt, Morocco and many areas in Syria, Iraq and Yemen TILL THIS DAY. So please, try to get your facts straight.
    And Even during the Ottoman Empire Jews were allowed to roam the lands. Just go 2 miles south of Jaffa to see a grant by Sultan Abdul Hamid to the Jewish people in Palestine. The fact that every old City has a Jewish neighborhood (Damascus, Cairo, Jerusalem to name a few) is a simple indication that Jews were living in Arab and Muslim communities and Muslims treated them with respect for 14 centuries. Again, get your facts straight
    As for the Equal rights, How many Arabs are enlisted in the IDF? How many Arab Kennisit members are there? You find out and tell me if that's "equal"

    3) That's not a grudge, that's just the response to "the chosen people", to justify every atrocity they commit. We say, they're the ones with God's wrath on them. But don't take the Islamic story as your proof, go to the Torah. Who were condemned by God to roam 40 years? And why? You will answer your own self. We're just repeating after the Torah

    I have no hatred, and I'm the first to accept peace. In fact, I'm the first to initiate Peace. Give me back MY home land and you will have everlasting and just peace!
    Arabs have not been at war with the Jews for 5000 years! That's a blatant lie, Arabs have been at war with the ISRAELI's (not the Jews) it's been 60 years. Exactly the time that the demonic creation called Israel has existed.

    As for Jews being good people, I have no doubt in my mind that there are many fantastic Jews everywhere in the world. But those are not the cause of the suffering of Millions, nor are they being blamed for it. But the Actions of the Israelis are, and they will always be until justice is served

    Thank you for passing by
    • #26
    • Passerby
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    • On: 9/9/2008 7:22:14 PM
    Thanks for your response Qwaider.  Here are some answers of your questions:

    1) About 28% of Israeli Arab youth volunteer and serve in IDF.  Many of them fought bravely against Hisballah in the 2nd Lebanon War for example.

    2) There are 12 Arab members in current Knesset.  Total number of Knesset members is 120.

    3) A minister of culture and science in Israel today is Muslim Arab.  This is the ministry that controls Israeli space program

    4) Last year Majali Wahabi, who is also an Israeli Arab, was an acting President of the State of Israel.

    5) Arabs and Jews did live in peace for long periods of time.  Golden age in Spain being one of them.  

    6) Arabs and Jews are actually relatives and genetically probably very similar people.

    7) Arabs and particularly Muslim Arabs are far more racist and genocidal today then the Jews are.  There is not a single Jewish group that calls for destruction and murder of all of the Arabs or even a large group of Arabs.  There are many Arab organizations, mostly Muslim fundamentalist ones,  that consistently and publicly call to murder either all of the Jews or a half of them who happen to be Israelis.

    8) Although I do understand your desire to get all of the land of Israel, which is also called Palestine since Roman times, I do believe that this a recipe for war and genocide (which any sane person, including You and I should oppose).  


    All or nothing approach preached by Palestinian leadership and followed by the people leaves Israeli Jews no other option, but to fight for their very lives.  And this is a sad reality of Jewish – Arab relationship today.   

    In my opinion peace and prosperity will come when, Arabs, who are by far the larger and more powerful group the Jews, will decide that they want it and guarantee safety to the Jews and Israelis alike.

    By the way, Torah tells that the Arabs will repent and leave in peace and harmony with the Jews.   I hope this time comes soon.
    PasserBy,
    I'm not trying to place this at an impasse, but Druze are generally not considered Arabs and have betrayed Arabs on just about every possible cause. They have allied with the Israeli occupation against their brethren and ended up being welcome in the IDF and in the Knesset. So that number (28%) is highly inflated and inaccurate

    Second Majli Wahbi is also Durzi. Someone benefiting from the system, he also served in the IDF, probably helped kill other Arabs while he's At it! Druze under the Israeli occupation are exactly like Lahhoud Army of Mercenaries in southern Lebanon.

    As for Jewish movements asking for the annihilation of the "Arab Animals" don't kid yourself, read your own newspapers! Also, listen to the mobs chanting "We don't want Arabs". While others were calling for Nuking places all over. Let me give you another hint: Kach!

    Arabs are not necessarily more or less genocidal than anyone, besides, you said it yourself, we're all cousins. So we must genetically be close in our levels of aggression. Especially when it's inflicted onto us, not the other way around.

    Now repeat after me:
    Occupation is Illegal
    Palestinian exodus is genocide
    Settlements are illegal
    Mass punishment is illegal.
    Confiscating lands is illegal
    Murdering Civilians is illegal
    Not punishing murderers in the IDF is a war crime
    • #28
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    counter is in my blog ,i would like to americans in my blog supporting palestine ,what about a counter like americans supporting palestine , am just learning html but if you help me we can do it.

                                           great page,congrulations !

    Fact: Israel used terror tactics on innocent Palestinians long before Hamas ever existed.

    Fact: Israel continues to build illegal Jew only settlements on Palestinian land.

    Fact: Israel arms its settlers, who routinely target Palestinian farmers with violence, while the IDF look the other way. The Jewish Hebron settlers are particularly violent.

    Fact: In 2004 the International Court of Justice, in The Hague, ruled the illegality of the Wall and settlements, asking Israel to dismantle the wall. They also ruled Israel to pay reparation to the Palestinians for the damages caused by construction of the wall. Something I don't believe they have done.

    Fact: Israel is in violation of numerous UN resolutions.

    Fact: Israel continues their blockade on the people of Gaza. (which is an act of war)

    Fact: Hamas has only existed since the 80's, and used to be funded by the US and Israel.
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