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« Nothing wrong with Judging!No one will know »

Yes, I am proud to be Jordanian

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:41:53 PM
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    The lows that people stoop to these days!

    I'm just really in so much shock from some of my "friends".

    Everyone know, I'm Jordanian, from a Palestinian origin. I love both, I am both, I can't prefer one to the other. They're both in my bloodstream, they define me. They have my allegiance. Both. Just like the human heart has 4 sections, and we have two eyes. Do you prefer your right eye to your left eye!!?

    My "friend" had the audacity to mock the flag I had in my car...

    Jordanian car flag
    This is the same flag. I had it in my car in Amman.

    I usually would take most things as jokes, but this time, I knew it wasn't!

    I am proud of my country, insulting it unjustly is like insulting me. It's unfair, it's completely uncalled for and never justified.

    The sad part is my "friend" recently got neutralized, so now he has the citizenship of the new country. He didn't find it embarrassing to walk around with a little pin of the new country on his chest.

    I don't want to be too harsh and criticize his new country, but at the same time, you owe a great deal of gratitude to the country that houses your family, nurtures, protects and supports them. Not to forget that you were also one of them before you got out to get your stupid PhD.

    It's a shame when the brightest minds, hold within them the seeds of thier greatest blunders!

    Don't mock my flag, it's worth to more to me than all your degrees that didn't get you an inch closer to humanity.

    And yes, I'm damn proud to be, among other things, Jordanian.

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    like me.. I love both palestine and jordan as well.. I put in my car 2 7a6a.. one red and one white:D:D:D

    you are tagged here: http://askadenia.net/?p=160

    • #3
    • Maher
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    • On: 4/23/2008 1:40:56 AM
    i remember when i wrote about this issue one day, and i got alot of strange reactions from a some guys! anyway, i think whatever you do. you cant deny the fact that some will keep thinking old school! too bad!

    PS : i am in love with the movie wedget dude..keep it up! :D
    I agree with you man.
    As my father used to say: اللي ما فيه خير لأهله وبلده ...ما في خير لباقي الناس
    • #5
    • KJ
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    • Said
    • On: 4/23/2008 6:11:33 AM
    You go boyfriend :D LOOOOL

    Your friend of yours needs a reality check. Even though my Syrian passport is the size of a magazine (I still have the old one) and gets me in trouble and restricts my work opportunities... BEL NA2ES

    It's the cradle of civilization and I am more than happy to be a living proof of it!
    sorry for what i will say, but its my honest opinion.. i loathe ppl who put flags in or on their cars, inno hal flag howeh illi 7ay5aleek watani zyadeh?? its just a sign of prejudice and racism.
    • #7
    • KJ
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    • On: 4/23/2008 8:16:48 AM
    ProudPali, I don't see how putting your country's flag is a sign of prejudice and racism, can you please clarify?
    • #8
    • Mona
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    • Said
    • On: 4/23/2008 8:18:45 AM
    Despite my origin is Palestinian, I am Lebanese and I love Lebanon too much but soemtimes I feel guilty for my negligence towards my origin country Palestine ..
    من نكر أصله فلا اصل له
    KJ: man, what's up with you? One minute you are in the UAE, and the other you are in the EU (according to the flags near your comments).

    Given the time of the comments, i assume the ones with the EU flag are written from work where you are using a proxy, and the other ones are written from home, no ?
    • #10
    • KJ
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    • On: 4/23/2008 8:35:58 AM
    za3tar, LooL, no, I have multiple personality disorder as you can see :D Moogle is in Finland and KJ is in the UAE :D
    KJ: hahaha .. ya i forgot about Moogle.
    • #12
    • Nada
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    • On: 4/23/2008 9:04:33 AM
    The new generation in Jordan with Palestinian origin grew up to love being in Jordan and being proud to be Jordanian , and I am one of them, since I spent the most beautiful days of my life in Jordan and to be honest till this moment Jordan is treating me well, how can't I feel proud to be Jordanian holding a Jordanian ID and passport, I grew up here, I studied here, I had the chance to study in the University of Jordan, do my masters, got a good job, having peace of mind, feeling safe regardless of some of the issues that arise not only in Jordan but all over the world, so Yes I am Proud to be Jordanian , this does not mean to disregard my origin, I am originally from Jerusalem, unfortunately , I have never been there, and I can feel the difference between my parents' longing and my sisters and I longing to Palestine, they were raised there , they  had the sweetest days of their lives there, so I understand how much they love it, I can't say that I love it as much, but I am proud to be of a Palestinian origin too…Once, a Jordanian friend of mine asked me where I am from, and I simply answered I am Jordanian but originally from Jerusalem, and he was really disappointed why I brought Palestine out in my answer, and he said I never thought that you discriminate between Jordanians and Palestinians, and actually I don't know why he said so, I told him that as much as I am proud to be Jordanian, I am also proud to be Palestinian, so I totally agree with you, and you have the right to show it the way you want, I do believe that we are a nice combination…and we are also Lucky : )
    theres nothing to explain KJ, its an opinion.
    • #14
    • KJ
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    • Said
    • On: 4/23/2008 9:23:50 AM
    Nada, you don't have to be ashamed that you're a Jordanian from Jerusalem. On the contrary, being from Jerusalem is the best honor you can have as a human being! I am Syrian, my mom's a mix of Turkish and Safad, Palestine. woohoo!

    ProudPali, I am not looking for an argument I just want to understand how you see it as racist, that's all. I respect your opinion :) but I don't necessarily agree with it. Here in the UAE, at least, people everywhere are putting up flags of the emirates as well as photos of the rulers. It shows love and devotion, just like when we pass by an American community and they have both the American flag and the UAE flag up. They love their countries and they love the UAE which is harboring them. My opinion is that if you love something, show it! But like I said, your opinion is yours and you're entitled to it :) Just don't hate me if I have 3-4 flags up haha
    Frankly, i do have a take on people who are from palestinian origin who've never set foot in palestine, who hold the Jordanian passport and still fail to mention the word Jordan when they are asked from where abouts they come.
    there's nothing wrong in saying: i am jordanian but originally from palestine.
    ولكم بلا أردن بلا فلسطين بلا قرف. منتوا كلكم عنصريين بدرجات متفاوتة.
    طول عمركم رح تظلكم ترغوا بقصة الاردني و الفلسطيني و المشكلة إنه الاثنين أظرط من بعض
    KJ, wala ana looking for an arguement, specially with u, i highly respect and like ur persona :)

    having said that, i am all for locals having their ruler's pictures and stuff, its their country, but especially in dubai, having the million nationalities putting up their flags on their cars is uncalled for in my opinion. inno why?

    i have nothing against any nationality to be honest (how cud i?! im half pali half turk, engaged to a syrian, holding a jordanian passport and another coming soon!), bas i find it ya emma min bab 'ouf there's a 7a66a in her car, min 3anna ya3ni, yalla nraqqem!' or the other more common idea 'im better than u, im X nationality'. bil nihayeh, its just an opinion, feel free to ignore it :D
    • #18
    • Faisal
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    • On: 4/23/2008 10:27:39 AM
    هاي شغلة أردني فلسطيني قديمه، الموضة هسع أردني/فلسطيني ولا عراقي ! يابه يابه تشوبي
    Hmmmmm....from an outsiders perspective, I agree with wonders and find it very strange when you meet Jordanians who insist that they are Palestinian when if fact they have never set foot in the country and even if given chance to do so, they probably would refuse. They never even mention the word Jordan when asked where they are from and I think that is very sad and also kind of ungrateful.
    • #20
    • KJ
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    • On: 4/23/2008 2:17:40 PM
    wonders & Armina, I know what you're saying but a few friends of mine here who are Palestinians (half of which never set foot in it) and hold Jordanian passport, will tell you they're Palestinians when you ask them where they're form.

    I believe it is a form of pride they have and a form of reminding the world that Palestine does exit, not just Jordanians with Palestinian origins. It isn't that they're ungrateful to Jordan, or hate it, or are proud of it. They cherish Palestine and since it is in their blood they don't want to make it secondary.
    • #21
    • Nada
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    • Said
    • On: 4/23/2008 2:29:37 PM
    Of course KJ I am not ashamed at all, to the contrary, I am so proud that my origin goes back to Jerusalem; however i would love once experience the real feeling of being there, still I am so happy with my identity, and like I said I consider myself lucky because being Jordanian with Palestinian origing is a bless for me personally, i know there are others who are not, or many people who discriminate whom actually I don't care to listen to, I care about how I feel , and I feel a sense of belonging to both Jordan and Palestine
    I identify myself with my religion..much better than borders, but to each his own, and no I never put country flags anywhere
    • #23
    • MD
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    • Said
    • On: 4/23/2008 4:01:48 PM
    Belonging is very complicated, people chose to belong to many things, not only countries. Religion is one of those things, which is something i find "not nice", as religion shouldn't be an ID,,,I think. Some people decide to belong to ideas (like freedom or capitalism) and some to humanity in general, the earth of their countries has no meaning anymore to them. Most of these people are the ones who are not satisfied with their country. I knew many of those people who refuse to belong to a country, and they come most of the time from a weak country, or undeveloped one. Its hard for example to find a German person who does not belong to his country with all his senses, but easy to find a Jordanian who would say he belongs to a religion rather than a country, or to Palestine that he never smelled. It is easy to know why.

    I think people should belong to the country they lived their childhood in, the time where they are mentally formed in, unless moving to another place changed them drastically after childhood. so its the place they find themselves in, this is where people usually belong to.

    by the way I dont like the Idea of flags and symbols, because showing who you are is not by putting flags, neither by saying what your religion is, it only by the action you do for the place/idea you belong to.

    To understand the points of view we should put ourseleves in others' shoes, and disregarding the flag doesn't necessarily mean hating jordan. The flag is only an object and for different people it represents different things. We reached a point where the flag and many national artifacts-including people- are now symbols of "patriotism", and this is a mistake, we must redefine patriotism, and only we the people can do that. Just drop the slogans and focus on one thing: Making jordan better for everyone. To eliminate those sensitivities we must have equity and justise, and because we are not fighting for it, we simply don't deserve it.

    يا زلمه سيبونا من هلؤصطوانه الماصخة
    • #25
    • 4 gotton
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    • On: 4/23/2008 6:06:02 PM
    I  am 2nd generation american roots from italy and sweden, But to be honest i dont feel to be of that.My most greatest and worst times were in jordan maybe my blood stream is not from jordan, But i am jordanian  and filesteen its not about the blood to me , It is totally about what you feel that makes you complete as a person, I beleive in the concepts I see the visions, I lived the pain, the good times , Been through intifada , Suffered with people, Drank tea with them, Prayed with them ,Seen horror with them ,Sacraficd with them, Gave alms with them ,Fasted with them, Worked with them, Fought with them ,Threw stones with them, Payed taxes with them, Had business with them, Was in school with them, Took buses with them, and any thing else you can think. I did it with them in jordan and filisteen. I would give my blood to both and go to the ends of earth with them. I actually may be more jordanian and palestinian than a person born there, only because i live and breath for them and feel proud to say the least, If i were to die now i would ask to go there and be born. It may all sound extreme and unusual but i feel some connection to this land.so long live jordan and palestine forever.
    I think there are a lot of emotions going all directions here.

    I don't understand why it's not OK for me to enjoy my little piece of home I brought with me in the form of a flag? Why can't I declare that I'm proud of something?
    I was born and raised in Kuwait, where I was reminded -constantly- that I am NOT Kuwaiti, and that Kuwait is a club for the rich and elite. Only they were the last in the class and wore dresses outside of school. Do I love Kuwait? Well, yeah, kinda .. But not as much as I love Jordan, where I came of age, I grew up and saw many "firsts" in my life.

    I found myself identifying more with people from Jordan, I feel like them, we laugh about the same jokes. We GET IT the same way, we have the same preconceptions about everything. We appear to have similar goals and share the same value system
    Take for example my Arab American friends, with all due respect. We have great time together but they're always phased out, or lagging especially when it comes to so many ideas. Some do get it, some learned to get it, but many others laugh and nod and get absolutely nothing!

    When I drive around in the US, I see the car that has, "Free Tibet" bumper sticker, another one with a huge green Shamrock indicating the Irish heritage. The 4th and 5th generation Italians still swear and cuss in native tongue and feel proud of their heritage. The Chinese have created a Miniature city-inside-the-city for themselves and they're proud of their heritage

    Why is it only when I fly a midget Jordanian flag, I get all this flack?
    • #27
    • KJ
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    • On: 4/23/2008 6:58:42 PM
    Qwaider, you shouldn't be ashamed nor do you need to seek approval from anyone on this. It is YOUR flag in YOUR car and if it reminds you of YOUR country then SO BE IT!

    My best friend can't go to the West Bank. His other friend can. You know what he asked for? A PIECE OF ROCK! He holds on to it dearly! With his life! This rock is from his country. It is JUST A PIECE OF ROCK and it means the whole world.

    Enjoy your flag my friend!
    • #28
    • Ahmed
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    • On: 4/23/2008 7:12:10 PM
    Gimme one reason that makes you proud to be Jordanian.. JUST ONE FU*** REASON ..   
    Ahmad
    Why should I?
    But I will give you a few
    It's where my family lives
    It's where my heart flutters
    It's where I feel I belong
    It's the place where Shawarma reem is
    It's the place that where I would lay my head ANYWHERE and fall sound asleep feeling home and safe!

    My reasons can be completely selfish, but still, they're my reasons and I hold dearly to them. It's home, enough said

    KJ,
    Thanks man, I really appreciate all you've said here.
    Personal freedom shall be guaranteed.
    Jordanian palestinian relations are deeply rooted in history,they date back to the first quarter of the twentieth century,the tow people found themselves obliged to interact each other due to geographic,social economic and demographic considerations,these relations have been both challenged by hardships and influenced by several other arab states.
    way to go Q allah y7aye aslak man :)
    any chance you have an extra one there?? :)
    I met a lot of those people too KJ, giving due credit to Jordan doesn't make Palestine any less important.
    I don't see this as an excuse, i just see it as a sort of racisim, i've had deep conversations with some of them.
    That's just sad :(
    And it seems to be that the greatest minds are the ones that start the trouble when it comes to nationalities :(
    It took me a long time to be proud of my origins again. People out there and teachers in our schools seem not to want us to be proud of being German ever again. I agree in not to forget what happened in WW2, but hell, that's not the whole history of our country.
    And everyone should be proud of where they come from. Period.
    Nicole,way to go.
    "Don't mock my flag, it's worth to more to me than all your degrees that didn't get you an inch closer to humanity."

    Surely it isn't really the flag, the piece of cloth ? What does it represent to you ?
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