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اعجاز علمي جديد في القرآن من اكتشافي- عفوا- الإكتشاف مذكور في الجلالين

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:49:20 PM
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    يكثر الحديث عن اعجازات علمية في القرآن الكريم. منها ما يذهلنا ببساطته ومنها ما كان تائه عنا ل 1400 عام. وقد قام علماء كثر بذكر الإعجازات ..

    تم تعديل هذا المقال بناء على معلومات قيمة من بالفورس. ربح من خلالها الجائزة و قام مشكورا بالتبرع بها للمسجد

    من العلماء الأفاضل طبعا الاستاذ طارق السويدان و الدكتور زغلول النجار وان كان لي عدة تحفظات على الاخير الا انه لا يتعارض مع كونه علامه و بحر زاخر بالدين والبحث العلمي..

    وطبعا هذه الاعجازات كانت مكان تهكم من بعض ضعاف النفوس الذين حاولوا تشويه بعض هذه الاعجازات بمحاولاتهم الدنيئه لدس سموم الكراهية والشك في نفوس المسلمين وهؤلاء اقول لهم. كونوا علمانيون كما تريدون ولكن دعوا ديننا وشأنه. والكلام موجه و بدون اي خجل الى شبكة العلمانيون العرب.

    اما اكتشافي يا احبائي هو في سوره الكهف الايه 18:

    وَتَحْسَبُهُمْ أَيْقَاظًا وَهُمْ رُقُودٌ وَنُقَلِّبُهُمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَكَلْبُهُم بَاسِطٌ ذِرَاعَيْهِ بِالْوَصِيدِ لَوِ اطَّلَعْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَوَلَّيْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِرَارًا وَلَمُلِئْتَ مِنْهُمْ رُعْبًا (18)

    والآيه فيها اعجاز علمي لم يتنبه اليه الاساتذة الأفاضل و تنبه اليه العبد لله.

    فمن المعروف علميا و طبيا. ان المرضى الملازمين للفراش لفترات طويله كحالات الكسور والغيبوبة يحتاجون الى تقليبهم كل لا يتعفن الجلد و يسكنه الدود والذي يؤدي الي تلف الاعضاء ثم الوفاة

    ففي الآية الكريمة نجد الله جلت قدرته يقلب اصحاب الكهف ذات اليمين و ذات الشمال. بدون ذكر السبب. و لم يكن معروفا في الطب القديم علاج من هم في غيبوبة فكانو على الارجح يموتو من الجوع قبل ان يتقرح الجلد و يبدأ بالتعفن و من ثم يستوطنه الدود. و طبعا لم يكن لنبينا محمد عليه افضل السلام و اتم التسليم ان يعلم مثل هذه الحقائق العلمية انما هو وحي يوحى.

    والاعجاز الثاني في هذه الاية الكريمة يتضح في "لو اطلعت عليهم لوليت منهم فرارا و لملئت رعبا" و في هذا الجزء اشارة الى ان شعورهم و اظفارهم قد طالت و هم شبه موتى. دلالة على ان الشعر والاظافر تستمر في النمو اثناء النوم والغيبوبة و بعد الوفاة خطأ شائع و شكرا ل"Rasha" للتوضيح

    الاعجاز هنا طبعا قائم.  لكن لم اكن اول من فسر الآية التفسير الصحيح. فتفسير الجلالين (شكرا بالفورس للتنويه) قد اورد نص مشابه لما ذكرت و هنا احب ان اعتذر من الجميع على تسرعي بنسب الامر الى نفسي. الحمدلله لم تطل هذه الزهوة (والتي هي من الشيطان لا ريب) و بمساعدة الاخوان و صلنا الى المعلومة السليمة. فشكرا ل جاد و ذاكولر و رشا وعفاف و بالاخص بالفورس و بارك الله فيكم و اكثر من امثالكم

    فسبحان الله العظيم في عظمة خلقة و دقة معانيه و كمال وصفه. والحمد لله على نعمه. اللهم صلي علي سيدنا محمد و على آله واصحابه و سلم. اللهم اشفي مرضانا وارحم موتانا ووفقنى الى ما تحب و ترضي. اللهم نسألك الخير كله، عاجله و آجله ما علمنا منه وما لم نعلم. و نستعيذ بعظمتك من الشر كله عاجله و آجله ما علمنا منه وما لم نعلم

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    السلام عليكم
    يعني الله يجزيك الخبر على هذة المشاركة بس انا قرات الكلام الي انتا حكيتوا من قبل
    يعني الموضوع هذا تم تحليلة و نقاشة من قبل و خرجوا بنس النتائج
    asalam 3alaykom,
    jazak allah khairan fe3lan..
    yes that was mentioned before but if you didn't know that ..that makes you a discoverer too..that is exactly what i mean when i say that knowledge is from allah..yes he gave us the minds,but what makes us suddenly realize something?!
    you are great as usual and i obeyed on the butterfly thing ..i needn't any reason!!
    • #3
    • afaf
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/25/2006 7:50:17 PM
    hey qwaider, do nails and hair keep growing even after death??? i can understand and believe that during coma or sleep, but after death, dunno...noone ever told me so before?? plz advise, dear??

    Jad and The caller,
    I will Give the FIRST PERSON who proves that this has been mentioned before (Ahel Al Kahaf and the Taqleeb part) ANYWHERE in the world before today. You have 3 days

    نعم: سأهدي اول شخص يثبت ان اي احد سبقني في هذا الاكتشاف (الجزء الخاص بأهل الكهف والتقليب) 100 دولار. معكم 3 ايام



    Afaf, yes dear they continue to grow. this is a well known fact

    Salam,

    I'm not trying to spoil your discovery or anything. I'm just aiming for the $100.

    الآية رقم ‏(‏ 18 ‏)‏

    ‏{‏وتحسبهم أيقاظا وهم رقود ونقلبهم ذات اليمين وذات الشمال وكلبهم باسط ذراعيه بالوصيد لو اطلعت عليهم لوليت منهم فرارا ولملئت منهم رعبا ‏}‏

    ‏{‏ وتحسبهم ‏}‏ لو رأيتهم ‏{‏ أيقاظاً ‏}‏ أي منتهين لأن أعينهم منفتحة، جمع يقظ بكسر القاف ‏{‏ وهم رقود ‏}‏ نيام جمع راقد ‏{‏ ونقلبهم ذات اليمين وذات الشمال ‏}‏ لئلا تأكل الأرض لحومهم

     ((  tafseer   الجلالين   ))

    Peace
    Here is another one:
    ( وَنُقَلِّبُهُمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ) يعني مرة يكونوا على اليمين ومرة على الشمال، ولم يذكر الله الظهر ولا البطن، لأن النوم على اليمين وعلى الشمال هو الأكمل.

    (وَنُقَلِّبُهُم ) فيه دليل على أن فعل النائم لا ينسب إليه، ووجه الدلالة أن الله أضاف تقلبهم إليه، فلو أنّ النائم قال في نومه: "امرأتي طالق" أو "في ذمتي لفلان ألف ريال" لم يثبت لأنه لا قصد له ولا إرادة له؛ لا في القول؛ ولا في الفعل، والحكمة من تقليبهم ذات اليمين وذات الشمال: بعض العلماء قال لئلاَّ تأكل الأرض الجانب الذي يكون ملاصقاً لها، ولكن الصحيح أن الحكمة ليست هذه، الحكمة من أجل توازن الدم في الجسد لأن الدم يسير في الجسد، فإذا كان في جانب واحد أوشك أن ينحَرِم منه الجانب الأعلى، ولكن الله بحكمته جعلهم يتقلبون.


    Can you send the $100 by western Union? the Blue copy please.
    Thank you for your corporation, looking forward to dealing with you in the futur.

    Yours,

    PALFORCE
    You know, This is awesome, The only way to get real answers is to put a price on it!
    Although this is not exactly the same idea (Al Jalaleen is using only half the argument twice. It's more of both, poor circulation leading to blistering that gets infected) but I concede that this is too close for me to claim I was the first.
    I'll send you a private Email right now

    Gosh I'm so excited :)
    • #8
    • rasha
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/25/2006 9:45:23 PM
    "Though hair and fingernails appear to keep growing after death, this is merely a morbid optical illusion at work. In death the human body dehydrates severely, retracting enough skin to expose more nail and hair."
    http://www.livescience.com/bestimg/?url=myths_hair_growth_03.jpg&cat=myths

    you can also check this (scroll down to growth after death)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_(anatomy)
    asalam 3alaykom,
    The only way to get real answers is to put a price on it!
    really..well guess what??
    get a bowl,put some rice,some minced onion and parslya nd shabat(don't know it in english)with salt and peper and mixed herbs ..ah..and don't forget some oil..tomato paste and tomato juice ..mix very well...then,STUFF YOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS..bon apetite!!!
    check dr. 3bd el basett mohamed..;)
    WOW :D

    I am laughing so hard. I don't even know why!

    Rasha, You're right, I should take Death out of the equation. Only when a person is alive hair and nails grow. I will note the change

    TheCaller, "Shabat"= Dill weed (I think)
    You're just bitter that Palforce got the $100 and you didn't ;-) You're a sore loser dude.

    Just to let you know Palforce has donated this money to my nearest Masjed (I will make the donation tonight at Ishaa) and post back confirming.

    Now I will post something to make all of you feel better
    Ok, the article has been updated.

    Please accept my sincere apologies. And may god enlighten your path too as you have done for me
    • #12
    • Noor
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/25/2006 10:34:41 PM
    very impressive, but maybe some1 said that before and no one noticed. anyways, excellent article indeed. i loved it. Thanks ;D
    على العموم كنت أول من اكتشف او حد سبقك شكرا على المعلومة القيمة ويسلمو ايديك
    • #14
    • Sapphire
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/25/2006 11:26:06 PM
    I am a doctor working in the intensive care unit, most, if not all, of the patients admitted in my department are in an unconsciouss state, and yes, the nurses must turn patients on thier left side and right side frequently to hinder the formation of "DECUBITES" which is exactly what you described, the eating away of flesh.

    Sob7an allah.  
    tip:
    always check all comments..!

    tip 2:
    don't forget the dried mint:)
    theCaller:
    7ader... 3ala rasi
    Please don't take it as a sign of disrespect, but why did you assume that you'd be scared from looking at the dead because their nails are grown and not for any other reason(being dead) ?

    Actually, you would be scared because the look dead, but breathing and they were sleeping with thier eyes open. And with Dust covering thier grown hair and nails. They look like monsters.
    So they actually look like Zombies. And those would freak the hell out of "most"
    • #19
    • kozo
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/26/2006 5:16:04 AM
    ma3 i7tirami bas il m3almeh illi 7akatilna il 2ossa awwal marra fee il saf il talit 7akatilna had il i3jaz.
    Awesome Kozo, you had a great teacher! it took me many years to figure it out on my own
    • #21
    • afaf
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/26/2006 6:27:28 AM
    qwaider, stop it, dead ppl donot look like zombies....haram ya rajel...beside, the hair and nails wont grow that long, cuz no more blood circulating...i could believe they grow for a while but not after that...like next day or so...scientifically it doesnot make sense...do u mean it still grows in grave too....dnot think so....sah??
    Ya akhi ana kaman eli 100$ ya3ni I was the first to comment and object! else people wouldn't pay attention!

    When's the next question?
    • #23
    • moi
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/26/2006 6:45:27 AM
    I really enjoyed reading this, Qwaider. Like someone else mentioned, you still deserve credit for pondering this verse and coming up with this explanation by yourself without the help of any outside source. The mind is truly the best gift Allah has granted to mankind. JAK for sharing!
    Nice post....

    Every one made all the nice comments and won all the money ...alas

    But I still have two comments or opinions of my own

    1- Personally when trying to analyze a verse of Qura'an or a Hadeath I would use the phrase ( it appears to me that ....or it appears to be the reason) because  can I be sure that the reason Allah was moving them from one side to the other is for their blood circulation or what ever reason?. No we can't because Allah does not need apparent reasons ...so it would be more correct to say ...that it appears to us that the reason for the regular movement was ..etc.

    2-I know you did not try to stick a scientific discovery to the Quran ...but still just like people to be more careful with scientific discoveries ...Because if a fact was proven wrong after 10 or 15 years does this mean that the Qura'an was wrong?! the Qura'an is a book or guidance not a scientific book and that is not down side ...it is what it was intended to be, some people try to cure cancer and other diseases with verses from the Qura'an and when I make the comment that I don't really believe in that I would be accused of not being a believer .

    Sorry talked to much! this is a bit longer than a comment should be ....excuse the female tendensy to blabber : )
    WOW Tamara. I swear to god these are my exact thoughts on these subjects
    For your #1 comment. I agree with you absolutely, it was short sight on my side, and in the future I will stick with your advice

    For #2, WOW! all parts of it. I agree with you 100% not only that. I actually keep saying those very words. And tried to Avoid proving science with the Quran. For the later part of that comment. Again you're 100% correct. I don't believe that reading Quran is going to treat illnesses. It would however sooth your soul and give you a better mood. Maybe that will help, but it will not kill a germ or a virus. Nor would it heal wounds or mend bones.
    Masha2allah 3alaiki! It's rare to find people who understand the soul of the text instead of the literal side of it. And by the way, regarding the healing with Quran, I heard this very point from a Scholar from Al Azhar, and he said that believing in Quran in this fashion is a considered a minor shirk, because health is from god
    asalam 3alaykom,
    jazaky allah keir tamara..you are precise!!
    i like your calm responds too cause i lack that yet admire it in others..
    regarding healing with quran..again i agree with you especialy after quwaider's good point that health is from allah,but wether the words of allah can heal or not..that i don't know but it's more than enough to say that allah heals..with or with out reasons..and regarding that i have a story:
    moussa (PBUH) was ill one day and because he was kaleem allah he asked allah to cure him so, allah sob7anaho wa ta3ala guided him to a tree and he told him to eat from it..he ate and he was cured..when he got sick again he went directly to the tree and ate from it but this time he didn't feel any better,so he asked allah and allah the almighty said..i make it the reason to cure and if you seek recovery without asking me it would never cure..
    excuse me sir for taking too much space..
    Glad you agree... : )
    • #28
    • Still Mistaken....
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 6/27/2006 4:58:20 PM
    Qwaider,
    Did you by any chance delete my comment regarding the whole scientific miracles in Quran, and regarding the previous article "wake up and smell the coffee"? It was supposed to be the fourth comment, and I was wondering if you chose to delete it...
    "Still Mistaken" I didn't delete it, I think you were under "Mistaken and ....etc" instead of still mistaken
    • #30
    • hisham
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 1/26/2008 11:17:00 PM
    جزاك الله خيرا عن امة الاسلام
    الاعجاز الذي اكتشفته واضح ومعروف منذ القد
    ويقول به معظم المفسرين وعامة الناس
    اما بالنسبة لمن سبقوك من الباحثين فزغلول النجار
    رجل مشهود له بالعلم وله باع طويل في هذا المجال
    اما طارق سويدان فهو رجل دين وليس له اسهامات في مجال الاعجاز
    وسبقهم قي هذا المجال الدكتور الشيخ عبد المجيد الزنداني
    ولك شكري
    السلام عليكم
    بكفي إنك اكتشفت لحالك حتى لو ما كنت شايف تفسير الجلالين
    هذا بحد ذاته انجاز
    • #32
    • عمي حسين الشمري
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 5/25/2009 6:07:30 PM
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    بسم اللة الحمن الرحيمبارك اللة فيك وانت تعلم ان الاعجازات كثيرة في القران الكريم وهذة احداها  مع التقدير
    • #33
    • Anonymous
    • Windows Internet Explorer
    • Said
    • On: 11/25/2011 11:35:57 PM
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    السلام عليكم
    لم اقتنع بهذا السبب للتفسير فلماذا لم يقلب الكلب اذا كان السبب ان لاتاكل الارض اجسادهم
    وهل يعقل ان يبقيهم الله هذه المده نيام في امر خارق للناموس الارضي ثم يحتاج الى تقليبهم لكي لايتأذو؟؟؟
    الرجاء ممن يعلم الجواب الرد
    • #34
    • Qwaider
    • Windows Internet Explorer
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    • On: 12/21/2011 9:50:32 PM
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    و عليكم السلام
    لإجابة على سؤالك "هم" هنا تعود على الجميع و تشمل البشر و الحيوانات، و ان ذُكر الكلب بعد الفتية. فهو في ذات السياق، ويقع عليه ما يقع عليهم. لكن يجوز ايضا انّه لا يتقلّب مع الفتية و هذا لا يمنع الإعجاز. بل لعله ذكر خصّيصا لبيان ان الله قادر على حفظهم لكنه خصّهم بالنوم فقط، في حين خص الكلب بالنوم و الحفظ
    و الله اعلم
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