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No, Mecca is NOT the center of the world!

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:18:52 AM
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    I have no idea why some people just love to pass on more and more of this useless NONSENSE! First I would like to say that as a Muslim, I am offended with these preposterous claims. In fact, I think these people are on a specific mission to RUIN the image of Islam. By any means necessary, and sadly so many Muslims just follow them like cattle and forward their JUNK in emails without giving it a moment's thought.

    To everyone who forward these lies, have some brains, think before you forward this stuff. This is all nonsense and ridicules Islam more than anything. Please STOP FORWARDING this junk! If you believe in God, love his messenger and have an ounce of pride in your religion STOP IT!

    mecca1
    Exhibit -a- Mecca as the center of the world

    This map claims that Mecca is the center of the land mass of the world. Which is complete and utter nonsense. In fact, it's FAR from being the center of the land mass. Even by simple vision

    Further more, even if it was the center of THIS SPECIFIC map, it' NOT the center of the land mass because earth is rounded which means, if you look at a different map (with say, North America as it's center) it will show Texas as the center of the land mass of the planet!

    These maps are inaccurate. They all presume a FLAT WORLD and the world is CURVED therefore the real map is FAR from being correct.

    In fact, this map suggests that people in north west America should pray in the South East direction, when in fact Mecca is closer if you direct your face Northward towards the north-pole.

    In the "old world" mecca was very far to the left to be the center of the land mass. (which would probably end up being somewhere in Kazakhstan or something like that. Again this is only according to THESE MAPS which are inaccurate. They just follow this convention. (While the Arabs had maps with the top part facing South)

    There's more in this email, but I don't want this to make this a titanic post. Just believe me, this is ALL nonsense and completely baseless. There are no scientists doing these stupid calculations, there are morons bent on ruining the image of the RELIGION OF SCIENCE and converting it to superstition and myth.

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    • #1
    • sara
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    • On: 2/10/2008 10:39:21 AM
    I hate stupid forwards too.. But regarding this very subject, I listened to a lecture by Dr. Zaghlool AlNajaar explaining how the Ka'ba is the very centre of the land mass of the world.. InshaAllah I'll look this up get back to you on that..
    Sara
    Please, don't get me started on that crazy lunatic called Zaghloul! He's CRAZY, STUPID and knows NOTHING about ANYTHING! In fact he has done more harm than good. And I would HIGHLY advise you not to take everything he says as a given! He's MOSTLY wrong! Read more here
    i happen to believe it is true, i read a lot of a7adeeth 3a hal mawdoo3, w in one of them (PBUH) says: ‏ (كانت الكعبة خشعة على الماء‏، فدحيت منها الأرض) which mafroud bifeed 7asab il mufasereen inno il ard ta7t il ka3beh heyeh awal yabseh thaharat 3ala wajh maa2 il mu7ee6 il ghaamer illi ballashat menno il ard, w ballashet il yabseh tetkawwan min hal nu26a onwards to form the mother continent illi in2asmat later on to form the 6 continents.

    i heard it once in a debate on tv and i tend to believe it is true.. some forwards get on my nerves bil narration wil suspence (wa ktashafa ma athaara dahshataho! inno no need for narration peeps!) but i reckon there is truth to this.
    There is no truth in this. There is no specific center for landmass as a this is spread on a sphere. If it was a paper cut-out, then maybe.
    Now because this is a sphere, it's clear that wherever you decide you center of the map is .. then that is your center

    Most importantly, that map above, is missing HALF the world, (yes, the pacific ocean)
    but the world isnt a perfect circle/sphere, its oval egg-shaped, so there cud be a bit of truth in it? i donno its my opinion inno akid il ka3beh markaz il ard, mish bil daroura as a mass, it cud be waves-related, or energy related (like the powerful energetic chakra of the earth) bil nihayeh im not trying to convince u of anything. just stating my opinion :D
    Spherical or egg-shaped doesn't change anything, it's still NOT the center. Except if it was a paper cutout and even then it's not true.
    Your opinion 3ala rasi min fog .. but this is science and there are no opinions here. What's Chakra!!? Can we measure it? Can we detect it?
    As I said, 3ala rasi oo 3aini your opinion but your opinion with all due respect is only wishful thinking and is neither a miracle nor a scientific fact.
    hmm.. Q., I think this has to be searched more..
    tayeb for the sake of argument, do u have a scientific ta2keed inno its NOT the centre of the earth?

    miracles dont exist u know :P il 3ilm 3and allah bil nihayeh i7na leih ma7mou2een? :D fi ishya ktir akbar nen2eher 3ala il ijtihaad il 5a6e2 feeha wil fatawi illi 3ala jamb w taraf feeha..
    Please, go ahead, and get me any respectable geography scientist who would do such a claim

    You know, if you find the ORIGINAL research I would accept it and I would not only retract this, but would make a post about that too.

    Mecca is a holy place, we don't have to add this junk to prove that it is

    And for god's sake that map is WRONG ya jama3a... It's missing, it doesn't take the curvature into consideration.
    I found similar claims about The great pyramids being the center of the earth. This time by no other than Tesla the great scientist who gave us the Alternating current! http://edgelife.net/article.php?id=979 However, the pyramids have the geographic location of 30N31E which makes them appear even better positioned to be the center of the earth! (compared to 21N39E for mecca)

    Mind you, the "The Pyramid sits right on the longest on land latitude line and the longest on land longitude line, thus making it in the center of the land mass of the world." as Tesla claimed. But I still think this is wrong
    • #11
    • MD
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    • On: 2/10/2008 1:12:16 PM
    I think you are very right Qwaider, This is one of the dumpiest claims i ever heard, but many Muslims try to signify places to add some holiness to it, as if it needs.

    I have threatened my friends who send such forwards by blocking them :D this worked :D. specially those who send the emails saying that if u read this or that u will get 100s of "hasanat" and if you forward it more you will get more :D. some people mix religion with math,,,,sadely
    • #12
    • KJ
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    • On: 2/10/2008 2:08:10 PM
    Dunno, nothing is true, everything is permitted. It may be the center of the world, it may be not. Does it matter, now, in 2008?

    My faith in Allah doesn't require me to know that the ka3bah is in the center of a sphere (which point of a sphere isn't a center anyway)
    I agree with you completely, Qwaider. A sphere has no specific center and you could claim ANY point on earth as its "center". Unless you mean its center of weight (which would be INSIDE it of course). Same goes for an oval btw.
    And about this map - a map is only a projection of the 3-dimensional sphere onto a 2-dimensional surface. Which results in many inaccuracies in sizes of the continents and lands and distances between them. There are many projection methods and it is known which inaccuracies result of each different method. In other words, there is NO 100% correct map of the earth.
    I am not an expert on this but it was brought up once by one of the zealous Islamic teachers I had! dunno if it is true or not but the plate tectonics will ruin it for them! The continents are in constant motion so If Mecca is the center of the land mass now , it won't be in a few million years which contradicts the whole point! I mean the ones who said it is the center of earth think that it will always be which is not true according to the simplest geological facts!
    ربما يظن قاريء من بعيد أن الذين يكتبون هنا هم مجموعة من "اللادينيين العرب" لانكارهم أبسط الحقائق وهو أن مكة المكرمة هي مركز الأرض، كيف لا ونحن أمرنا أن نولي وجوهنا شطر المسجد الحرام؟ أليست أطهر مكان في العالم؟ اذن لا بد أن تكون مركز الأرض ...بالبرهان والأدلة
    في الحقيقة أن هذا الخلط بين المعتقد الديني - واركز هنا على كلمة معتقد- وبين الحقائق والظواهر العلمية البحتة التي دعانا الله سبحانه وتعالى الى تأملها والتفكر بها لنعلم عظيم قدرته وليس لنثبت أننا نعلم بها قبل حدوثها بألف وأربعمائة عام كما يعتقد بعض الجهلة
    بالعودة الى الموضوع أجد أن من الواضح لا ول من البديهي جغرافيا عدم وجود مركز للأرض ولتقريب الصورة فقد تعلمنا أن شكل الأرض بيضوي أي يشبه البيضة فهل يستطيع أحد أن يجد مركزا لأي بيضة رآها حتى لو كانت بيضة الديك؟
    أما اذا كان المقصود أنها مركز الأرض روحيا وبالموجات المنبعثة والى آخره من هذا القبيل فعلينا أن نلجأ للأدلة الروحية كوصف شعورك عند الوصول الى مكة وتقبيل الحجر الأسود وكل الشعائر الأخرى المرتبطة بها وليس اللجوء الى الأدوات الهندسية الموجودة بالصورة
    سأطيل في هذه الملاحظة وأرجو أن يسامحني قويدر
    بالمناسبة ماذا لو جاء أخ مسيحي وقال أن الصورة تشير الى أن القدس التي نحج اليها هي مركز الأرض!! هل يستطيع أحد نفي ذلك علميا؟
    تاريخيا هذا الاستنتاج الخاطيء سواء بالاجتهاد أو بتأويل الآيات القرآنية والأحاديث النبوية أدى الى وجود عدة أخطاء علمية في أشهر كتب ومراجع المسلمين التاريخية والفقهية على السواء ومن أشهر هذه الأخطاء ما كتبه بعض الفقهاء المشهورين عن أن الأرض منبسطة واستدلوا على ذلك بالآية القرآنية التي نستشهد بها الان على بيضوية الأرض "والأرض بعد ذلك دحاها" . بالتأكيد هذا كله سوء وتأويل لا لزوم له في النصوص الدينية
    شكرا قويدر
    • #16
    • mona
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    • On: 2/10/2008 10:25:05 PM
    Good post! Sadly lots of these emails are being forwarded by well-meaning muslims who think they are doing a service to Islam somehow. The Kaabah being visible from space, Allah written on Tsunami waves, people turned into animals ect etc, the list is endless!
    Having said that, I do object to using such demeaning words about Dr. Alnajjar. Misguided or mistaken might be better. He is trying to do a service & whether we agree with him or not, he still deserves respect.  
    Three points here:
    1. forwards of religious contents happen to contain a lot of crap which eliminates any slight of belief when things mentioned there are every doubtfuly true...i agree!
    2. May it be the centre of the earth geographically or not...why does it piss you or anyone off??! It is great and holly enough to be the qebla of our spirits and prayers being bayt Allah...geography then has no meaning!
    3. I will keep ( remember how many arguments u and i had on this for the past 20 months) rejecting and objecting to the way you adress scientists like Dr. Zaghloul...after all he is a man of great internationally recognized science...you don't have to be convinced but you can't call him stupid and such rude names...
    4. you're still my pal and you know that...i invite you to reconsider please :)

    Thanks :)
    oh my inbox is full of those religious emails who claim to state facts that are questionable. I once received an email how healthy doing sujood is because when you put your head on the floor, you discharge the electricity ("earthing) in your body. and since the head is the focal point and where all the headaches and extra electricity exist, then it is really one of God's miracles and wisdoms in making us do sujood in the prayers.

    In other words, if I am an athiest, I could substitute the whole sujood with standing upside down on my head to discharge the electricity in my body.

    *shakes his head in wonder*
    I tried to not comment on this, but the comments there just didn't help. either way whatever i might say it will not change the mind of those who believe that "CRAP" ! since they get that "wow, sub7an al allah" tingly feeling in their stomach ... if thats the center of the earth then u guys need to look over some geometry since it seems u skipped it in school.

    As for zaghloul, i think its 2isem 3alla musama, you have to read his books to actually realize the piss poor job of "science" that he does. science is about peer review, backed evidence, aversion to woo. he manages to avert any of that and is more than happy to reference outdated publications that suite his point, i bet you if you can find a reference after the 1970 ... a "geologist" isn't an all knowing scientist so don't be delving into other sciences atleast.

    but my main interest here is a sentence am curious in asking u about,
    qwaider what do you mean by this ?
    "there are morons bent on ruining the image of the RELIGION OF SCIENCE"
    can you give me some examples of religious science ?? since thats what i understood from that sentence
    Islam asks it's followers to get educated, to understand more. To ponder n the universe, to find medications, to seek scientific ways to resolve matters and not depend on superstition and myth. It was revolutionary in this field as many of Islam's followers did great examples of that.
    That's what made it the religion of science. At least in my view
    كل يوم بيجيني زي هيك تفاهات ع الايميل, ونصها بكون غلط, واحد عندو خيال واسع بقعد يألف ويبعت , وبالاخر بتلاقي الايميل بلف العالم كل يوم سبع مرات, وببطل حد يعرف الصح من الغلط, بس المشكلة بالموضوع هاد انه الكعبة مبينة جد انها بنص العالم .. بدنا حد يفهمنا احنا .. ههههههههههههههه

    شكرا ع الموضوع
    Askadenia
    اي مكان ممكن وضعة في منتصف الخريطة. بغض النظر ان الخريطة المذكورة خاطئة لأنه بدون.. نصف العالم الآخر (المحيط الهادي) و بغض النظر انى مسطّحة مش كروية اي مكان ممكن وضعه في وسط الخريطة. اذا جرّبت جوجل ايرث بتعرف قصدي
    • #23
    • Belal
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    • On: 5/13/2008 9:55:23 AM
    Makkah is located on the Arabian peninsula, between Africa, Asia, and Europe. If all the of the earth's landmasses are fitted together, Mecca is in the center.

    If all the of the earth's landmasses are fitted together, Mecca is in the center.

    If all the of the earth's landmasses are fitted together, Mecca is in the center.

    If all the of the earth's landmasses are fitted together, Mecca is in the center.
    Belal, actually, few scientists proved the the pyramids fall in the center of the world!

    There is no center of the world! It's all the same! It's a sphere. How are you going to measure the center of a land mass on a sphere that isn't even? And it varies in so many things!?

    Let me tell you this. As far as I'm concern, the chance of Mecca coincedently falling near the center of the land, is exactly as much as the chance of any other point on the planet!

    In a sphere, the center of gravity is it's core.
    Since earth is not a sphere but more elongated around the Equator. That makes gravity greatest at the poles. Mecca is located closer to the equator which forces it to be at a greater distance from the center of the mass of the planet. And since gravity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance that makes it even less the amount of gravity.
    Add to that, that there are places like the dead sea. Which are way lower than Mecca and therefore have more gravity.
    • #26
    • Mahmoud
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    • On: 8/8/2009 1:42:30 PM
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    Qwaider, sorry for bringing up this old subject :)
    First I admire your writings ;)

    The theory doesn't say that Mecca is the center of the globe as a shpere, this will make no sense as like you said any part could be the center of the globe, the theory or fact if I can say is that Mecca the center of the land, meaning if we put the gathered solid land and attached them together then Mecca will be in the middle, I guess this is the perfect explanation, what do you think?  
    Oh GOD...I was looking for this post..and I've found that the last comment is in this post too ?!
    I believe that Mecca is the center of the world..not because of the above article..but because many other things...I have found some interesting videos on Youtube before coming here.

    Anyway..I think the last comment before mine is a sign for me ;)
    • #28
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 8/9/2009 11:01:25 AM
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    Folks everyone is entitled to his belief. But we should all distinguish between belief and fact
    Another thing to consider, what difference does it make if it was in the center or not? I know it could have been placed in a more hospitable location. But I think the hardship of reaching there is part of the whole experience.
    By the way, I did some calculations and found Mecca not to be in the center of the earth but a little bit off center. Which really doesn't mean anything.
    Also, if you believe in Plate tectonics, you will discover that even if this is the case today, it's unlikely that it was or will be the case in the future
    • #31
    • سلطان
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    • On: 6/19/2010 2:46:33 AM
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    Hi,

    As a Muslims we shouldn't care if Mecca in the center of the world or not.  However, if some scientists made some research to prove something, then it is obvious that other scientists will do their job too, either to prove the results of that research or not.

    As Muslims, Mecca is in the center of our hearts... and that what does matter!

    • #32
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 6/19/2010 3:27:29 AM
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    سلطان
    Thank you very much, that is the bottom line indeed!
    Mecca will always be at the center of all our hearts. It doesn't need any credentials. It doesn't even need our faith. ان الله غني عن العالمين
    • #33
    • Nancy Roberts
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    • On: 8/13/2010 11:04:33 AM
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    This whole exchange is very interesting and helpful. Thanks, Qwaider, for talking sense instead of nonsense! (I, by the way, am Muslim.) The great Sioux chief Black Elk once said that although Harney Peak in South Dakota was the Sioux people's most sacred place, "everywhere is the center of the earth." If we could only treat each cubic centimeter of the earth as sacred, maybe we wouldn't be trashing it up and polluting it the way we do!
    • #35
    • MS
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    • On: 9/18/2010 8:24:58 PM
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    If you a little smart you would have researched it. It was proven not because you look at it with a map. Next time you try to come bring this point up go do some research, dont just pick up a map and start drawing.  

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/2282323/Neil-Armstrong-Proved-Makkah-the-Center-of-the-Earth

    One last thing if you don't understand it. NASA intentionally deleted this information. Let me guess because the goverment is against Islama and wants to deny everything they can.
    • #36
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 9/18/2010 9:28:06 PM
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    As a Muslim, I'm deeply offended and insulted at this garbage that is being circulated on the web.
    First, Neil Armstrong is not a scientist, he's an Astronaut. Which is basically a glorified pilot. He was the first man to set foot on the moon. He's in no position to make any claims. That's "IF" he made these claims and I guarantee you, he didn't!

    Second, this article you cite, is complete and utter bullshit! Mecca is not the center of the earth, there is no radiation coming out of it. There is NO SUCH THINGS, and neither ISLAM the religion, or the scholars make such preposterous unsubstantiated claims.

    Before you come here and ask me to do some research, and claim that these have been "proven", do a little more research than a simple Google query. That's NOT research. That's Web Search, any 5 year old can do a search on the web and come with "some" results that show in front of them. Does that make these results facts? Or truth? Not by a long shot! It's only the kind of garbage that floats on the internet! That's all.

    NASA Doesn't delete junk like this, They're not interested in pursuing fairy tales and doctored images. That's not their job. It's the job of logical people to educate the public that certain things are just IMPOSSIBLE and can not happen.

    As Muslims, we should be the most resistant to superstition and fairy tales. We have a code of life and ethics. We have a guide to get us out from the darkness (many scholars say ignorance) to the light. We shouldn't allow this junk to pollute our great religion. It doesn't add anything, but in fact, takes away from the greatness of Islam.
    • #38
    • Kitz
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    • On: 10/26/2010 3:10:20 AM
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    dude! The mecca is proved to be centre by considerin the world in 3D also. The centre of earth, human body parts, plants, almost all natural things is found by a ratio and not by a compass! First of all u stop considerin earth as a sphere coz its not exactly a sphere. And u r right that muslims blindly believe in Islam and anythin regardin it but they r better thn u. Coz i guess u believe in science more thn Islam. And yeah there is also a hadith i dunno its referrence but it says that when Ibrahim(pbuh) had hit the land of mecca to dig for the construction of mecca, there was a quake in all parts of d world n thats why he didn't do it again. And i dunno if science can prove but there must not be any part of earth where quake didn't occur. And it happened so coz mecca is the centre and it is a common sense that whenever there is a disturbance in d centre, other parts will face probs. In d same case u must be knowin that kaaba will be raised up b4 the end of d world. Its actually like once the centre is taken away, the world will be destroyed! And i suggest u not to run behind science coz its not yet complete.
    • #39
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 10/26/2010 10:19:26 AM
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    I suggest you LEARN some English first, and get some education about Islam THE RELIGION OF SCIENCE, THEN come and tell me fairy tales.
    Mecca is not the center of the Islamic faith. Nothing more. It's just a piece of land. Nothing more.
    It's a shame really that people call others Kuffar for disagreeing

    Trust me, and the "incomplete" sience, Mecca is not the center of the world. But it is the center of our hearts
    • #42
    • simopisces
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    • On: 11/14/2010 11:21:05 AM
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    I see here the DESCENDANTS of Abo Jahl discussing and debating about something up than their cave man brain could figure out.

    Something else, Mr. Qwaider:  isn't better to shut your mouth up and seem fool than open it and remove all doubts!!!?

    Finally, to whoever dare to BLA DOUBT BLA about Scientific proof and evidences in Coran, do this first:
    1. Learn Arabic language
    2. Master it
    3. Learn Coran and WHY, WHEN  every verse had happened
    4. Discuss with open mind even if you disagree
    5. Say Sobhana Allah when you face paranormal phenomena
    • #43
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 11/29/2010 9:31:29 PM
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    Looks like descendants of Abu Jahl now learned to speak, thank you for your lovely comment. Which shows how much of abu Jahl you have in you. It's better to not waste anyone’s time explaining to idiots like you, but just for the love of Allah and this great religion, I’m going to waste my time and try to help you understand.

    First, Abu Jahl was the father of 3ikremah ibn Abi Jahl, who is a great Sa7abi and despite his father’s rejection of Islam. He was called “Abu Jahl” by one of Islam’s enemies at the time “Al Waleed ibn Al Mogheera” who happens to also be the Father of Khalid ibin el Waleed (The cousin of Abu Jahl)

    Second, what I said is purely scientific, and there is nothing foolish about it. It’s well established, and documented.

    Third, Islam and the Holy Quran (Quran not Coran) NEVER, EVER said Mecca is the center of the world. NOT by a long shot. Not even indirectly, not even implied to it. Not even remotely. So please, don’t say it’s in Quran. No level of knowledge or mastery of the Arabic language could change that FACT.

    This is a great religion, don’t pollute it with this garbage. Please.
    • #44
    • Choum Ahmed
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    • On: 2/11/2011 7:24:51 PM
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    i think all muslims pray towards mecca from all the corners of the world, then u may like it or not the compass points north towards the Kaaba even when u move around the Kaaba, the direction will remain north from all point. and u claim 2 be a true muslim but you may be by name...
    • #45
    • alislam
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    • On: 3/9/2011 11:37:49 PM
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    MECCA IS THE CENTER OF THE EARTH HERE IS THE PROOF:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMuHbsuJkM
    • #46
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 3/10/2011 5:13:55 AM
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    This video proves nothing. First it's not even remotely scientific, second, this video proves that Mecca is at the golden mean ratio point and NOT the center of the world. So what you shared proves that mecca is actually not the center of the world. Despite the fact that this is not even a scientific or even logical.

    People, mecca is the center of our spiritual Islamic world. It doesn't need to be in any special place for it to remain in our hearts, minds and prayers.
    • #47
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    • On: 3/14/2011 2:21:45 PM
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    Combine religion and science ... you'll get the answer to everything ... the problem with religion is that facts depend entirely on beliefs and philosophy ... religion should befriend science, and together try to find out the truth ... I bet both of them are inaccurate

    Proofs in science may be  proved wrong anyday. Think of medieval scientists ... and think of the years some of them dominated science with their discoveries ...
    • #48
    • reeko
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    Islam is truly an incredible religion, and any question u might have u will find in our Holy Quran. unfortunately few take the time to actually understand what they are reading.  in reference to the ka3ba being the center of the world, Iv been told that it is the center of thee world since i was very young, growing up and trying to truly understand Islam the way i should, i started looking for facts to back my beliefs. My understanding is that it is indeed the center of the universe rather than merely planet earth.
    • #49
    • Islam true religion
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    • On: 7/23/2011 12:03:46 PM
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    It seems to me you are not a Muslim.
    • #50
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 7/23/2011 6:44:31 PM
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    Who are you to judge? It seems that you have no idea what Islam is, and how tolerant this religion is.
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    bro sorry to say .. but first of all your language what u have used is quite offensive .. i dont know weather you follow the religion islam or not .. but its a lovely religion from me .. and i have learned a lot from it .. i m sure u have too .. bro it is proven that mecca being the center of the earth its not the junk mail or something .. on this part i would like to reply on yur language .. may ur mail gets 1000 junk mails .. not ours .. bro ur no one to judge and do this .. be supportive rather than going against it .. i really wish i can meet u personally and explain u things .. take care buddy .. and hope ur not against anything else also .. if you r .. lemme know i will clear it out in your language or mine .. thanks

    Salamalaikum
    • #53
    • Qwaider
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    • On: 8/8/2011 11:03:37 AM
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    Samir, I'm a proud Muslim. I love my religion and hope that it prosposers, but I would like to clean it up from this junk. Trust me, it is junk. I can prove it to you in every possible way you want, including the fact that there is No hadith or Sura that indicates that Mecca is the center of the world

    Again, Mecca is the center of our belief as Muslims. That is enough. It's the house of the lord and our Qibla. That's enough for us.

    The rest is worthless additions by people who hate Islam to fool Muslims into believing this type of supernatural baseless junk
    Hi everyone,
    I am writing a paper for school and wanted to use fraze "my school is a Mecca for immigrants." I am sorry if I will make you mad, but I grew up in Czech Republic with Polish parents. I did not know anthing about the islam or city of Mecca, but we used the fraze quite often, when we wanted to refer to something as a center. I promise I will try to find out why are we using.
    • #57
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    QWAIDER
    YOU WROTE
    (By the way, I did some calculations and found Mecca not to be in the center of the earth but a little bit off center. Which really doesn't mean anything.
    Also, if you believe in Plate tectonics, you will discover that even if this is the case today, it's unlikely that it was or will be the case in the future)
    I agree it doesn't matter if in the center or not, but
    what do you mean by some calculation and what center you was looking for.
    my friend you can have it two way, there is no center and after some calculation you done is not in the center??????
    can you please publish your genius calculation for the benefit of us all  
    • #58
    • Hicham
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    WARNING MUSLIM PEOPLE!
    This article is a misinformation, do not allow this idiot to shake your faith in the One and Only Creator, Allah Subhanahu wa taala. The holy city of Mecca is "Golden mean point" of planet earth, and the center of world map. It has been scientifically proven that mecca is the "phi" of our planet. And here is why :)



    Golden Ratio (number of the creation of design and esthetic) = Phi constant = 0,61... or 1,6...

    According to the calculations of the latitudes and longitudes of the world's map, planet earth’s golden ratio point is exactly at Mecca, which is considered the holy city of Islam, and the most visited piligrimadge site in the world and throughout history. And weither you like it or not, the coordinates east longitude +39,82 and the north latitude +21,42 shows that the Kaaba and the holy area is at earth’s golden mean point, you can verify this by applying the coordinates in Google Earth. And here is the correct calculation :

    90° + 21,42 = 111,42  Furthermore 111,42 / 180 = 0,61...
    And Vice versa 180 / 111,42 = 1,6...

    180° + 39,82 = 219,82 Furthermore 219,82 / 360 = 0,61...
    And Vice versa 360 / 219,82 = 1,6...


    Mecca’s distance to the poles / The distance between North and South poles = 0,61...
        
    Mecca’s distance to the North Pole / Mecca’s distance to the South Pole = 0,61...
        
    Mecca’s distance (west) to the equinox line / The Earth’s perimeter = 0,61...
        
    Mecca’s distance (west) to the equinox line / Mecca’s distance (east) to the equinox line = 0,61...
        
    The inner ratios of the lines that passes through Mecca and combining the poles and the equinoxes = 0,61...

    ---------------
    ALSOOOOOOOOO
    ---------------

    The holy Qur'an mentioned mecca ONE time only. The verse that tells about Mecca and Kaaba is Ayah 96 from the 3rd chapter, Sourat "Al-Imran" (Arabic: آل عمران‎.

    In this verse the Almighty Creator clearly informs us that
    (إِنَّ أَوَّلَ بَيْتٍ وُضِعَ لِلنَّاسِ لَلَّذِي بِبَكَّةَ مُبَارَكًا وَهُدًى لِلْعَالَمِينَ).
    Meaning: " Verily, the first house (of worship) appointed to the people is the one in Bakkah (Currently known as Mecca) full of blessing and guidance to the worlds"

    Now for the mind blowing fact. In its original form (Arabic language), this verse is formed of 47 letters. Miracleously! the word "Bakkah" (Original name of Mecca) turns out to be the golden ratio of the verse!!!!!!!

    And here is the correct calculation:
    The number of the letters until the word Mecca / The number of the verse’s total letters = 29 / 47 = 0,61...

    WARNING PEOPLE THIS ARTICLE IS A MISINFORMATION,

    You can verify this -scientifically proven- information here:

    www.realiyexposed.webs.com
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