and you are obviously still living with jaheleyyeh mentality!

so you want wives to kick their husbands outside their homes as a solution of the situation in Gaza? How sane is that?

Men and women can raise their voices for the world community to act. We need no more stupidity and uncivilized actions now. It is time to use our brains, not stupid rage emotions.

لا يا عزيزي فما قصده قويدر ليس ما علقت عليه
أريد ان اسال كل عربي: متى دفعه والداه الى قول لا بوجه الظلم والدفاع عن شرف الامة ؟
للأسف لقد تربينا وزرعت فينا ثقافة الخوف والجبن، نعم الخنساء لم تعد موجودة الا في غزة، هناك فقط تدفع الأمهات بأولادهن لمقاومة المحتل ويستقبلن جثثهم الطاهرة بالزغاريد هذه هي الحقيقة

لا يا سيدتي, نحن تربينا على ثقافة الموت والانتحار, تزغرد الامهات لانتحار ابنائها بدل دفعهم للعمل بجد للتعلم و تحقيق عيشة افضل. شرف الامة دعسناه بتخلفنا قبل ان تطأه قدم اي معتدي اجنبي. الحل ليس بجلد الذات و انما بالعلم و العمل الشاق لتحقيق حياة افضل لابنائنا

عزيزي أرجو أن تكون أكثر تحديدا أنا عندما تحدثت عمن تربى على ثقافة الجبن قصدت كل الشعوب الضعيفة و المنهزمة والمقهورة في آن وهذا لا يشمل من هم في غزة لأن هؤلاء ولدوا وفي يدهم حجر وثقافة الموت والاستشهاد في سبيل الله كانت وليدة الحاجة للدفاع عن النفس والعرض والشرف قبل أن تكون عشقا للنزول تحت الأرض وهذا بديهي
أما ما أؤكد عليه فهو أننا - وسأحصر التعميم بأهلي ومن أعرفهم في الأردن - فقد ربانا آباؤنا على الخوف من كل سلطة ولم يزرعوا فينا بذرة رفع صوتنا لقول لا بوجه من يسلبنا حقنا والا فما تفسيرك لكل هذا الصمت العربي تجاه ما يحدث في فلسطين والعراق
عزيزي لم تكن المقاومة متعارضة يوما مع العلم ونسب التعليم في بلادنا معروفة ومع ذلك فالحرية وحقوق الانسان والعدالة وتكافؤ الفرص هي مصطلحات نحلم بلمسها وشم عبيرها في وطننا وفي الدول العربية قاطبة وهذا في مجمله نتاج لضعف وجمود المواطن العربي في مكانه
الفت انتباهك الى انني محمد

M shaltaf, sorry, I dont know why I assumed you are a female, I guess that I related the M with Om! Stupid I!

I was talking about us as a nation, and yes Gaza's people especially are being raised on a culture of death because of their unfortunate situation. The answer to our problem is not killing back. We can fight by building ourselves instead of trying to destroy the enemy at a stage we can barely hurt them. We ought to reassis our values and priorities. Our kids are not getting not only the necessity of food but also knowledge and education. It is our fault as much as the fault of our enemies because we are not looking at our situation wisely, and are blinded with our historical power and pride.

qwaider, I am all with you for a peaceful jehad, but you were calling women to kick their husbands out of their homes. That is not the answer for our problems, this is just another mad reaction to our misrable situation. We are full of such reactions and ought to start thinking and behaving wisely.

It is like all the writers that seize every chance to attack the Arab nation honor! That is a no way to help people!

"yes Gaza's people especially are being raised on a culture of death because of their unfortunate situation."

How do you define unfortunate, because being unfortunate can be loaded with lots and lots of meanings!

And what culture of death are you talking about?Maybe we should focus on the norm of injustice before we talk about "death", and keep in mind that human beings are not animals that just want to eat and live "well", for many people honor and respect is beyond what others can understand...A humilating word is worse than a bullet, because the bullet wound heals(Or you die) but the other wound is unhealable..

Just keep that in mind, and don't ever talk on behalf of other people unless you are in their shoes.

Salam

Mohannad, I meant by unfortunate condition is the Israeli occupation.

I dont find any honor and respect when your fight only cause more humilation and pain to you and your entire family. That is no honor and no repsect. It is a pure insanity and stupidity from our side where we are brainwashed by our historical victoriess and imaginary heroism.

We ought to build our self respect and work for our own good before being suicidal and hurt ourself the most because our pride have been hurt. That is pure sickness. I guess it has a psychological diagnosis.

FYI, I m not talking on behalf of other people, I am analysing a situation and giving my own opinion. I guess that I  have every right to do so, even if I am mistaken.

"I dont find any honor and respect when your fight only cause more humilation and pain to you and your entire family."

If MLK had this mentality, if all freedom movements had this mentality then can you imagine where the world would be today-it is bad already!

Your point of view is not called analysis, analysis is a complex process that begins with data gathering from the GROUND, you can do so by going to gaza and living there for six months or maybe more..Unless you do this and live their everyday life and listen to every mother's and child's story, you are not analyzing and I can say it loudly: You have no right whatsoever to diagnose their or our "sickness" as you called it.

Salam

Mohannad, I have been gathering data all of my life! I have been raised in this region and grew up on this culture. I know what they teach us at schools and I am all aware of the situation in Gaza. I, in no means, try to underestimate how bad is the situation over there, and I, in no means either, would ever defend the Israeli occupation or deny of its impact on people's life over there. BUT, I am also aware that most people living in palestine under occupation are thriving for peace. Only few are there taking military fighting as a means of fighting opression, and as a result causing a lot of harm on everybody. I never say not to fight, but make it in a peaceful way. Our world, eventhough it doesnt sound lie it, is a civilised world, and with peaceful means we can achieve a lot. Just look at Ghandhi's experience. Wish we just learn. It has been almost 100 year, and we are losing more everyday, just because we are chosing the wrong tools for our fight.

Qwaider, I do understand people's suffering, and I dont blame them to retaliate. It is justified, YES. But isnt it the time for us to re-assis our fighting tools? If people over there under the occupied terrertories dont have the luxury to think clearly, then we should help them and push for peaceful means. Your post was meant only to causing more trouble against ourselves. That is not what we need right now. We need wise men to help us reach better places. I am so glad to see king Abdullah doing the right thing. We fortunately have a very wise leadership, and it got to me when I see some writers getting emotional and call people for unwise acts.

This is not data, and this is not called living the experience, what you have is a lense that you see the world through, and your lense DOES change how you see things. Try to be as objective as possible..
"is a civilised world"

That depends on how you define "civil", if you define civil as having tall buildings, sexual freedoms, injustice, and killing then hell yeah we reached the top, but if you define civilization as respecting human lives, justice, and equality then we are FAR FAR away..

I agree with qwaider, and don't overblow our role, we are NOTHING, absoulutly nothing, we can't do anything, and whatever israel wants WILL HAPPEN..Just as huckabee said the other day, saddam's WMDs maybe in jordan..

Salam

before I forget, you can anytime visit haaretz.com and jpost.com and indulge in the comments that the peace partners leave..Maybe once you read some of the these your lens can change a little bit.
And wait, wait, who killed Rabin? Who said that Sharon had a stoke because he gave up gods land? Who is threatning olmert if he withdraws from any part of palastine?Who is saying that palastine was an empty land?Which country is all army?Which country writes "love" messages on their bombs and rockets?

Dude, you are arguing with the wrong party..
Peace is something between two strong sides, peace is peace when the people want it not when the "leaders" say so..In israel they elect their leaders so they are reponsible for their choice, while us, we are not..

It is a shame that we are training Abbas forces to opress their own flesh and blood, but hell, what do I know, those are MODERATES!

Qwaider, that is childish of you to turn this discussion into a battle of what you call manuvers. You know that what you are implying has never been my style. I brought up the king as an example of how wise leadership knows how to handle such difficult circumstances. I was trying to convince you with my point of view, not winning this conversation which you obviously lead it into a child play

Mohannad, that is absurd reaction of you as well. You took this conversation into a total different direction. To say that the Israeli people dont want peace is just a typical ignorant reaction. They want it more than us for the sake of their peace of mind. And when I say they, I dont mean evert single israeli because you know they have their own extremist as much as us, and unfortuantly it is extremist that have been raving havoc upon us for ages now. It is time for us, moderates, to stand up and take the leadership. It is time to address the killing built culture and build one of peace and toleration.

I guess this conversation ends here. You are free to say your last words. I am done from my part.

"have their own extremist as much as us,"
As a percentage we are WAY WAY WAY lessssss.

You said it: they want peace of mind, but arabs want just to live as humans.Arabs just want that their 80 year old men not to be humiliated by an 18 year old israeli soldier, as simple as this example can be it represents a whole nation..

Just keep that in mind, and never ever forget that jordan is part of their "promised land".

Salam