Dr Phil, Leave Abdullah and Katherine Alone!
- By: Qwaider
- On:Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:42:20 AM
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I am sick of this junk going around the Internet, Abdullah psycho this. Abdullah psycho that! When are you people going to freakin wake up and understand that this is not even news worthy!? So some teenage chick ran away from home and travelled half the way across the world to be with the boy she liked over Myspace! BIG DEAL!! Everyday teenagers (some even from Arab American roots) run from their parents houses. What happened to the teenager? Was she forced into prostitution? Was she beaten? Was she offered to the cult prophet as a gift and roamed their ranch offering free sexual favors to the village? Was she sleeping on a a sidewalk with a junkie needle sticking out of her arm?! Was she kept against her will?


Katherine Lester and Abdullah Jinzawi
Stop this goddamn feverish reverse-hypocrisy. Middle eastern men are NOT after your pretty little princess! Dr Phil.
I'm sick of this! How is this news or even TV worthy? Let alone prime time TV!
Yes, it's not acceptable for a family to help the daughter of some other family to run away from her parent's house, but HELLO this is USA! Teenagers run from their parents house EVERYDAY! Some are found others are never found. Teen pregnancies are a common thing a sad reality, but it exists!
Let alone people who abuse these teens and convert them into prostitutes, strippers and worse. This is the country of wonders. A girl can sell her flesh before she's old enough to buy alcohol, because you know you don't want her to do it while intoxicated!
So What happened to the girl? Was she tortured? Hurt? Forced to work in any capacity? Anything!?
As for the Arabic culture, there is such a thing that is well known and it's called "Khatifeh" (Kidnapped marriage) Where the girl ARRANGES with her future husband to have her kidnapped (Circassians do it, it's also widely practiced in Lebanon). Yes she might get ex-communicated by her family. And yes she might be disowned. But it does exist and it happens! And it doesn't make the news in the news in Jordan. Imagine making it on prime time TV here in the US!
Dear Arabs who think you're so righteous! Had this been the story of some chick from farm-land Midwest state. No one would have said anything! Had she travelled to Darfur to do some humanitarian aid for her Sudanese boyfriend who she met over the Internet. You wouldn't have said a thing! And Dr Phil would be interviewing her to praise her courage!
Another scenario, had this been An ARAB WOMAN, (say Bahraini) who flees to be with her American lover in the US (Say A marine) THE WHOLE WORLD would start preaching us on women's rights and how we should give them the freedom to do what they want.
But she's not Arab, and he's not a marine, he's an Arab, a Palestinian!
But this girl went to Palestine! Cleverly/devilishly covered by the western media as "Middle east"
This girl went few feet away from the location where Rachel Corey was bulldozed into the holy land!
This girl went after love with a -god forbid- an ARAB!
God! The level of hypocrisy the media has in this country!
I PERSONALLY know 3 girls who were mothers by the age of 18! Two were HIV+ and worked in a Java coffee stand. A third ran away from home and ended in a cult practicing sex for pot and roaming naked until the "Family" was raided by the FBI in eastern Washington farm. She lost her son's custody to her own mother. Ask me, I'll send you her pictures! That obviously didn't make the news!
Now do I support the idea that little teenage girls leaving their parent's house? Absolutely not! But if this story makes the news then EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE who left their parent's house, later to come back with scars that last a lifetime, those should be on hypocritical Dr Phil prime-time too!
The right wing American websites are already abuzz with "warnings to parents" so their sweet little sixteen year old sweethearts don't end up as a "veiled or Niqabi" Palestinian housewives for some fanatic Islamic terrorist. They puke their hatred on these sites and found another opportunity to demonise the whole culture. It doesn't matter if you're Muslim or Christian to these folks, you're an Arab! You're a freakin Arab!
Memories....
"...Middle eastern men are NOT after your pretty little princess!.."
She's little, but she is in no way pretty, he's so much prettier! :D
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I sent him an email
That's it. But there is another factor to it. The damage they do to our collective reputation ass a nation.
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Will do, thanks for the link. I appreciate it
Our circassian 'khatifa' has its own rules and procedures and is never committed habhazardly...
And yes, Dr.Phil is making a story of nothing... I don't support Abdallah's family only from the point of view that they will never accept the same to happen tp their own daughter, bs kaman Dr.Phil cannot make it a common interest breaking news unless Abdallah's family abused her!! and they never did! They, seemingly, didn't mistreat her... I can see some driven behaviour here!!
So what do you make of this ? is American media BIAS? do you watch FOX news? it makes you wanna puke some times doesn't it?
Imagin feeding this crap to viewers day in and day out, its a continuous brain washing process,Lie and Lie and Lie 'till people believe you, and thats exactly what they want Americans to believe that Arabs are monsters, and they represent a danger to the national security, or the national reserve of American Girls,most Americans are NAIVE when it comes to crap like this, THEY buy it, and the media will air any thing that sells and these type of stories sell very well.
I agree with Hareega we should not set there and take this crap I encourage every one to respond with at least an email.
Thank you Qwaider for bringing up issues that could have a negative impact on all Arabs.
Khatifa, or "kidnapped marriage" has its own rules.
Kidnapped marriage means the girl's parents (mostly her father) don't agree to marry her to a specific man. In other words her father did not say "yes" to the man.
So, the girl decides to get married to that man anyway. In this case, she does not run away with the guy on a midnight train like in the old movies. Well, the girl has two choices. Either she goes to court and asks the judge to get her married on the basis of her parents r3efusal to get her married; so, the judge would be her wakeel. The other choice is to find a man that would fill the place of that judge. Usually, a well-known man in town or a city, well-respected by the public (Mokhtar), in some cases, it would be her own uncle, from her mother side, or her father's side (less likely.) She asks the man to be her wakeel instead of her father. So, she leaves her father's house, and goes to her uncle's house who is usually a "mohram" to her, and if he is not a "Mohram", he would be a "Mokhtar" or a well-known man, and she stays with his wife and he is able to offers her hospitality and protection as per customs; and stays there until she gets married by giving him the power of attorney (to be her wakeel).
At this point the girl recognizes that her family will not be pleased with her behaviour to reject her father as her "wakeel." But, as per customs, a year later, or when she delivers her first baby, she and her husband and some other respected people go to her father and ask for his forgiveness and blessings, and she or her husband puts the newly-born baby in his lab. Most likely, the father accepts and their life continues. This "kidnapped marriage" happens in extreme cases; especially, when the father opposes the marriage at beginning because of tribal issues, and after that they have tried and exhausted every possible way to change his opinion, by calling well-known respected men (wojahaa) to visit him and change his mind. When everything fails, and the girl still wants to marry that man, some people would suggest such a solution. Sometimes, the father himself would suggest such a solution (in indirect way), to save his face, because he had to "swear to God" in the past that the this or that tribe so and so. So, he saves his face in a away such a marriage did not happen with his permission.
This is in short to clarify such a marriage. So, a runway on a mid-night train is not a "kidnapped marriage" as per customs.
You know? I really think Abduallah is too stupid to understand that he was ambushed by the best in the business! It's obvious that Katherine was brain washed.
She admitted at first that he (and his family) treated her well, She continued to have a connection with him up until she met the hypocritical Dr Phil and all the professional brain washers who will intensify all their arguments on two fronts; abuse, and compatibility. And they have succeeded there.
At the end they threw in a "southern boy" because it "feels right"
More and more hypocrisy just to make a buck!
The more I think about it, the more I blame Abdullah for wasting his time she was clearly a spoiled little American teenager who's out to have some adventure and to get famous while doing it!
Which reminds me of Monika Lewinsky for some reason!
hes soo hot
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However, it's not Americans only. This fake superiority is apparently rooted in every one's DNA!
amarica sleeping around and i for one understand his anger dr phil you need to back off i for one stand by abullah and say stop this and abdullah never get copsad around canada i belave abdullah not kathrine i am nicole from canada abdulla if you need to talk to me add me to msn
at
coolnicole4@hotmail.com or on facebook
type in nicole powell and i will be there for you lots of love nicole email me
love nicole
email me at coolnicole4@hotmail.com or face book at nicole powell
its obvios he's NOT a muslim
if he was .. he wouldnt trick her into flying there
cuz : muslim's are no-way would marry a freakin american stupid girl !!
the would marry 1 of their own nationality and religiun
in the bottom line :
HE IS NOT A MUSLIM MAN
HE'S A TERROIST ..
OKAY
for me : its her families fault
1- they gave her the phone with NO supirvising ..
2- the did't survice her on the internet or just try 2 talk to her ..
thanx everybody
if u have any thing to add plz do !!
this whole issue is made to show the world the wrong image of the arab people and tell them that we are terrorists and we don't respect our women and this all wrong.
and why he shows this strage woman that -as she said - is married from iranian man and escaped from him, what is the relation between them, and why iran, i'll tell u why iran , because it is the strogest ISLAMIC country and u USA and israel are very affraid from it.
that's all.
at last,
dr phil,u can please israel more and u can enrage the arab people very more.
and Kathrine can get over it, she is young, beautiful... and she will meet good guys...
Dr.Phil tried stoo hard to show abdalla as a bad guy.. changed my whole perspective of the show.
Dr Phil wants to cater for the fears of parents in the US by showing them what would happen to thier daughters. They will be sold into slavery and treated like dogs. As if Arabs in general and Palestinians in particular do that routinely to women.
Thnx for reading this
ولكن كان فيه شي شوي بالنسبة لي غريب .. هو كلام عبدالله وطريقته في الرد .. يعني كان ممكن يكون أحسن من كذا ويعبر عن راية بطريقة أحسن...
I noticed when cathrines ant claims that abdalla called her names, and how abdalla get surprised about that lie. when he asked her when it happened she just twisted the topic.
I just saw an interview with abdullah on the arabic talk show called "Kalam Nawaem" in arabic, it means "Soft Talk" or whatever you want to translate it. The show is what I think is the arabic version of "The View".
Abdullah claims that 3/4 of what happened on Dr.Phil was a lie. In his defense of why hitting her, she refused to return back to the states when abdullah wanted her to go back and that she was nagging to let her stay in palestine. Therefore, she insulted him (could be personally)which led for him to slap her.
During the show, Abdullah said the following:
1) That Katherine went through some serious problems which led her to become smoker and also got arrested. All because she was despred she wanted to be with Abdullah.
2) Katherine's father let his daughter to go to palestine by his and the family's will. Therefore, they knew that Katherine didn't flee the house as they claimed.
3) The next day, Katherine's family called the media and Dr.Phil claiming that their duaghter has escaped and that they are afraid and want her back safely
4) Katherine converted to Islam and married Abdullah.
I think that Dr.Phil wanted to give the picture that arabs are "terrorists" as almost everybody realised. And that Katherine got brainwashed to say things that contardicts her previous statement again as almost all of the people realised.
In my point of view, Dr. Phil is a typical american who have this cetain image that arabs are this and this and this. Like George Bush.
why does he introducing them like this ( a young teen & a man)?? he seems so racist and he shown how american ppl think about arabs ...when it comes to swears said by abdullah to ktherine sister : remeber they siad certainly bad words as : a retrated arab or sth...
then, when i watched the 3 full episodes i said yes ; abdullah could be greedy who's craving for green cart & visa to usa .. u know it's the american dream !
but when i watch the arabic show, i was sure it was just a lie !
abdullah is right ! it was just the usually american pretends !
please all of you, check the link below, it has the real story
http://archive.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns/world/10217976.html
Abdulla is a muslim guy thats why american specially dr.phil hate him
http://www.drphil.com
plzz send him emaills and tells him he must appologize for us
and here is a link on facebook for a group We have to Make Dr.phill Appologize for Arabs ..
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19927595982&ref=مف
wow some people need to take the cotton from their eyes and put it in their MOUTHS.
"she insulted him (could be personally)which led for him to slap her."
THIS IS NEVER OK TO HIT A WOMAN, PERIOD.
سلام
Sadly, the show where Abdullah gets to say his side of the story was never aired in the US.
He was hosted by an Arab TV show and his side of the Marriage (yes, they were married) and a married woman aren't supposed to be hooking up with an "American hot guy". At least that's decent women. There's no difference between an American guy and a guy from any nationality around the world. Americans are not better lovers or better husbands. It's racist to even insinuate to that.
No one is saying violence against women is acceptable in any way shape or form. But that's not why this whole publicity stunt was done by Dr hypocrite
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yuo can just go like that dear and ask for abdulla , everyone will pretend that he is abdulla, because you are cute & beautiful , really . i dont mean what you thing ,,, if you did think of something., so please dont go fare away.
how can i helps you here, is their's anything i can do ?
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