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Memories....
All coffee tastes like crap, that's why you need sugar to swallow it!
and who do you think you are to force others to like your taste?
starbucks' coffee is the best :)
I blame it on the american accent :)
Moey
I'm someone with better taste than you moey!
I can say the same thing :)
Enjoy your "taste".
Up for a starbucks' sumatra cup?
And no, I wouldn't drink Starsucks coffee, not just on principle ... but also on taste! It's junk man! Junk!
seriously.. he never has a point, never made any sense, a 3 years old kid have more sense more him, he is just a person full of crap, a person who hates everybody like that has serious issues!!
you know Moey hates a person like qwaider? because he knows how to put him in his place, he knows how and when to shut someone like him up!!
أرجو أن تسمح لي أن أعبر عن رأيي بصراحة في هذا الموضوع وأن يعتبر الأخ الذي لا أستطيع كتابة اسمه بالعربي مستثنى مما أقول فأنا لا أستهدفه بل أعبر عن رأيي الشخصي جداً
الشعور الذي ينتابني عند المرور بهذا المكان بالقرب من جسر عبدون لا يسهل علي وصفه...شعور سيء للغاية، يربكني حتى في طريقة قيادتي للسيارة...أنظر إلى هؤلاء الذين على الشرفة وأسأل نفسي من أين جاؤوا؟ هل يعقل أنهم ليسوا عرباً؟ لكني أعود وأتذكر أن أحد معارفي يفضل هذا المكان على سواه
في أحد المرات وفي ذروة الشعور بالكراهية لما يفعله اليهود في أهل فلسطين انتابني شعور برغبة جامحة ومندفعة بأن أدخل المقهى وأبول عليهم!!...نعم أستجمع كل السوائل في جسمي وأفرغها فوق رأس كل عربي يمارس تلك الرذيلة في ذلك المكان
لن أكمل أكثر وسأكتفي بأهداء جميع العرب أغنية مارسيل خليفة "ركوة عرب" يمكنكم سماعها من هذا الموقع
http://www.songs4freedom.com/arabic_coffeepot.htm
ركوة عرب
أحلى من الركوه على منقل عرب
أحلى من الفنجان
حلوه متل عبي القصب
خيط القصب تعبان
جيبوا حدا من دمر يدقدق وشم
جيبوا من الهامة والوشم
بن محمّص قال لها الهوا نامي
غمازة لعالخد ماإلها إسم
والخد قدامي ومكحلي
والكحل راسمها رسم
مين لبرا قلامي
ومشنشلي متل الفرس
والسرج خيّالي
بإيدا أساور من دهب
بتخش
بتخش؟
بيدور الطرب ليوم القيامة
بيدور الرقص ليوم القيامة
3. im not a big fan of coffee
2. its too expensive for a very regular coffee, and regular everything
1. im boycotting... i dont cre about the 270 million kharoof in watan el 3arabee, howard can climb up on our backs, but he is not gonna use my money for that
as for those who do go to starbux with statements like: the one in ME is different, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up.... oh fick it, dont wake up, aslan nom el zalmeen 3ebadeh!
As for me, I prefer Ben Al-3ameed, wasat bidon hail, sadah... O ma3 Marlboro Lights, ya walai ana. :D
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Plus, Starbucks is all about sugar and calories. I personally tried cake and their hot chocolate once or twice back in 2004 maybe. Everything else did not attract me. Sometimes I feel like it is all a 5absa. And their cake tasted better by the way (Which is ironic because it is supposed to be a coffee place, right?)
I think Starbucks is overrated but people are free to do whatever they want after being presented with the information :)
moey said: "and who do you think you are to force others to like your taste?"
lol da7aktni! man ur the one forcing.. u can stuff ur face with their products and be happy with it all u want bas u dont have to push it down anyone's throat coz YOU think its 'different' in the ME and that seriously israelis dont benefit a nickle, sorry a fils.
i think starbucks sux too, costa and caribou r so much better, even their ka3akeesh lol il muffins w hal ishya i mean..
I love McDonalnd's and Starbucks!! both of them. It's been an addiction.
It's a matter of taste qwaider, people don't like the same things...you know, each nation thinks their food is the best. Our Egyptian neigbours think their food is better than Palestinians, and we think some of ther food is inedible...so it's a matter of personal taste
I like McDonald's Big tasty sandwich, and Starbuck's Hazelnut Cafe latte ;)
same as to Mcdonalds and other baycotted restaurants , honestly speaking when am in jordan i totally forget about these ..
i miss jordanian coffe shops and local restaurants .. :)
If people want to drink Sratfucks why don't they drink it quietly and shut the fuckup instead of trying to tell us the Israeli bullets that rip through the flesh of Arab babies in Palestine are paid for by Schultz and not the company he founded and he manages and where he makes his money.
Fucking sick people.
Schultz funds violence against innocent civilians and funds a brutal occupation. When an Arab is accused of supporting violence against Israeli occupation or any other invaders those Arabs are often jailed for supporting terror. But when a Zionist or anyone else supports and funds violence against Arabs we give the excuses and make them wealthier. how sickening.
Lookup AJC, Bnai Brith, AIPAC, and where they get their funding and try again.
and for stupid moey:
there is nothing with being gay , actually being gay doesn't mean that you are stupid, coz you said that it's not enough for you to be gay and stupid in one sentence.
The problem is that Starbucks is small fish. Really the biggest entity that supports Israel militarily and financially is the United States of America.
So to be serious about a boycott, one would have to:
- Revoke US passport if you have one
- Quit any job that relies on American money
- Not live in the US (to avoid spending money there)
- Cancel all internet subscriptions, and never use a PC again (both intel and AMD are US based, and Intel has a plant that it is currently expanding in Israel)
- Cancel credit card accounts
- Jordan would have to revoke its free trade agreement with the US, expel all US nationals and close the US embassy.
- Not buy any products made in the US, or manufactured and sold using equipment with US components (i.e. no PCs, NO ICs).
I don't think anyone writing on this post is that serious about the boycott since their PC is still on.
انا حبيت هاي
buy any good Arabica coffee (not Arabic, Arabica)
و اللبيب بالاشارة يفهم ....
1) a key premise behind any boycott of unfriendly businesses is not just to punish an enemy entity causing harm to us, but to support local and arab industries with our spending habits. so even before we speak of boycotts for the sake of stopping murderers, we have a duty to support indigenous and friendly business and industries in Jordan by giving them our money, with or without any invasion problems.
2) the second key premise is that not all US companies are evil, only those who are openly zionist, like Starbucks and a few others who have been identified by activists over the years as being right wing or Zionist. There are substitutes to those companies products. So to keep buying their products is...well...
3) even if we can't do a 100% efficient boycott, A 50% efficient boycott or a 25% efficient boycott across the Arab and Muslim and progressive worlds can deprive enemy companies of billions of dollars in profits and makes doing business in the Arab world unprofitable for them. naturally, they will shut down, opening the way for friendly companies to establish presence in Arab countries. or the boycott may compel hostile companies to stop their support for zionism.
your cynical all-or-nothing approach reflects your defeatist mentality. You have always been a weakling who stakes positions friendly to the strong and the rich.
You are the quintessential Vichy Arab interested in self-preservation above all other humane considerations. i often need nose plugs when i blog with people like you.
1. Arab consumer buys Coffee from Arab branch of starbucks --> branch pays percentage/fee to the corporate office --> corporate office returns dividends to it's investors --> Schultz contributes money to Israel --> Israel uses the money to finance it's army
This is very similar to:
2. Arab consumer buys PC with Intel CPU --> Intel invests part of that money in its Israel plant, and Intel and its American employees pay taxes to the US Government --> The US government contributes Billions to Israel (15 million dollars a day according to qwaider's post last week: http://blog.sweetestmemories.com/default.asp?Display=1257#Comments)
You can establish hundreds of these chains, but the point is chain 2 is the biggest one, and it would be impractical and impossible for you to touch it. So if you start a campaign saying use Arab products, that's one thing, but if you're campaigning to boycott Starbucks, you're missing the big picture!
I think you are trying too hard to be smart in finding ways why boycotts don't work. How about if you try hard to be more humane and do the best that you can to send a message to the worst offenders, starting with companies like Starbucks. That's all what anyone can ask of you. And if the day comes the Japanese make a better chip than Intel, we should dump Intel.
But for you and other assholes to try to portray efforts by decent people who want to make a different as some sort of an idiotic and pointless campaign, now that's despicable. It's all about doing your part or as much of it as you can. failing to do so, you can at least stop pissing on people for doing theirs.
You are absolutely correct a BK whopper, a starbucks latte, a pizza hut pizza are all none-essential, and all would taste much better if we made them at home, and all have local alternatives that are cheaper and taste better, but regardless of your strategy of (every little bit helps), and any percentage success we can achieve with the boycott is progress, I don't see the idea pulling enough people behind it to the point that it could shut starbucks or any other such company down. Do you ?
And knowing that it cannot do that, is it worth it for you to call another Arab names, and for Qwaider and moey to fight ?
I'm not telling anyone what to do, in the end you will do what you want to do, and I will do the same. I am just justifying why I don't do what you do.
First you shouldn't use that name. I allowed it once, but I don't think I will allow it again
Second, there's nothing wrong with being gay. That's a personal matter and none of anyone's business. This doesn't mean that I'm encouraging it. It's none of my business
Third, thanks, but I can reply on my own. I thank you for your support, but I can take care of this one
Mohd Shaltaf
شكلك ستوكون على قائمة العرب المتهمين بالتبول الإرهابي :) طوّل بالك
Mariam
Coffe has many beautiful things associated with it. Taste is one of them. It's subtle and acquired.
The thing is, Starbucks makes junk of a coffee! I live in SEATTLE! The Coffee capital of the world, there are so many coffee places here that are not as large as Starbucks but they beat it hands down on taste.
Jasim
HEHEHE! I love Ben El 3ameed! It's awesome! In fact, I prefer any of the coffee places in Jordan to Starbucks (Yes, even Abu Issa coffee, I just love that!) Although, that is technically not coffee!
KJ
You know, I knew about RGB and CMYK when I got my first PC back in the 80's with a CGA colors. Back then everyone understood what RGB meant because you had to get a monitor that supported it! That's when some people didn't even know how to keep the bed dry at night!
Hala
Yes, you're right, it's really old news
and yes, it's all sugar and calories.
Thier cake tastes just like the cake at 7-Eleven, they all get from the same place! Costco, Sams club or Cash and Carry. Same calorie bombs, but people enjoy the more "expensive" junk
Yep, people are free to eat whatever they want, but if someone comes to me and tells me "OH THE TASTE" and mention Starbucks, I'm going to puke. Because Starbucks sucks so badly on taste!
Verbal Alchemy
Yeah, Moey is appointed by Howard as Starbucks Middle East's representitive! Oh wait, it's al Sahy3! The train their Barista's VA! You know what? Barista is really not a Job! It's like flipping burgers at McDonald's You don't go to "Espresso University" to get a degree in that! :)
Abed Hamdan
Let me make you a Hazelnut coffee with plain half and half and you will divorce Starbucks and know what I mean by good taste.
McDonalds is Junk food, just like Starbucks is junk coffee, addiction is part of the experience... not a positive thing though
Yes, it's a matter of taste, but as someone who knows how to taste, I am telling you, Starbucks sucks! It's bad! People can enjoy it, without flashing "Oh my god it's so good" in my face because simply, it's not!
Dandooneh
Thier muffins are just like everyone else's ... you think they just found the secret of all good taste!? Safeway has the same muffins for 1/8th the price and they are even fresher!
I agree with you, local coffee shops and restaurants are the best!
Sharab
Well said!
Sam
:)
Actually, I've seen so many Starbucks stores that closed! One was bought and converted to Seattle's Best, another just closed as a KIOSK espresso drove them out of business because it was (A) A small neighborhood, and (B) the people were so aware of the evil tricks of Starbucks that they went out of their way to support the single mother standing in the kiosk in the parking lot across the street from the fancy Starbucks! End result. The single mommy won
In Vancouver BC, the Local coffee chain beat Starbucks in taste, verity and friendliness! It would be packed while Starbucks (bikish dobban), and in Abdoun, the guys on a stand with boiling coffee is doing very well standing next to Starbucks, even blue Fig (which also has crappy coffe. Sits right next to Starbucks and apparently has better business selling coffee than it's international competitor few feet away!
Abbas
I agree with your reasoning. But trust me Hani is not the enemy, he has an alternate point of view and I'm not even sure he disagrees.
Hani
Yes, all those lobbyists force the whole US foreign policy and say it in Israel's favor.
Quing
I'm not trying to force my taste, I'm saying Starbucks is no taste! It's crap! I know because:
1) I'm a gourmet chef! Check my food section
2) I live in Seattle, the coffee capital of the world. So it's easy to compare and contrast between different flavors.
3) I come from a heritage that has historically dominated coffee. Arabs are the ones who kept the secrets of coffee locked up for centuries. It was their own yummy invention that was a catalyst (according to many sources) for the industrial revolution in Europe
Trust me, I know what tastes good and what doesn't.
As for the little "gay" thing. I doubt moey is gay. Gay's usually have a better sense of taste, fashion and beauty. he fails on that front
Hani
It IS taste too. On top of all the stuff. Taste is the last argument people will give you, and they don't know how much distaste they are presenting when they use that argument.
Starbucks is a small fish indeed. Intel and AMD are a little larger fish. And the whole US is even a larger whale. But taking radical measure or going out of your way to send a message is not necessary. It's a crappy product that we are paying our hard earned cash for.
Oh, and Big fish, live off smaller fish, if you catch my drift
USA is built on corporations. Make the corps suffer, and they will change. Make Starbucks fire their CEO for his "Actions" and other will learn. At least, they will know it's not going to be tolerated as simple as that by the 300 million Kharoof that Mariam talked about
الـ[مشـ]ــعبيط
و انت مش عبيط ... و اللبيب .. فعلا ... بيفهم
Abbas
Yep, this is one issue that has way too many dimensions to gain my appeal... and it would never do
Abbas
Take it easy. I think Hani is trying to make a larger point
It's good to play the devil's advocate. In fact, it's VERY important for someone to play that most hated role... why!? Because it keeps us all honest.
Just take it easy on him. He does have a point you know. It's not all that clear. But I'm sure it is there.
Hani
That's right, it's not all or nothing... there is so much gray in between
I'll let you two enjoy the conversation ... but take it easy guys... trust me you are both on the same side
Oh and by the way, I'm not fighting with Moey! He's been craving a fight for a while, and I just gave it to him. As they say, "badano bo7okko"
I didn't argue the taste part because that's subjective, but I'll have to try Arabica coffee just out of curiosity now that I know what it is :)
But we're not saying boycott with no reason. Most of the places have an agenda. In fact, in the 21st century even baby cloths have agendas. It does make a great difference to check
As for the taste, which happens to be subjective as Hani said. It is really mediocre when it comes to Starbucks.
^^
Ya 7aram, jadd wad3ak ma2sawi Qwaider, you have brain blockage and nothing to blog about so you pick a fight with me? I was going to write something bas bte3raf shu, khalleha benna a7san ;)
Funny thing, SBC made a better cup a coffee for some reason! Tally's the -other- giant tops both. Not to mention the other really great places. Allegro, Lowry's, JJJ(RIP now), Kahili and many many others
Funny you should mention writer's block, since I posted TWO articles at the same time!
Oh and I'm shaking now. Why do you keep running your mouth with empty threats! If you had anything you would have done it already. You have in the past. What is stopping you now? Shame? You have none habeebi. And I'm not just "being an ass". I'm dealing with you better than you deserve actually.
Lama ..
Wow! I don't know what to say .. but can you cool down a bit?
I have some important stuff to say today
i went to a lecture (few days ago)
and the lecturer was talking to us abt carcinogenic stuff, things that may lead to cancer
and one of it was ......COFFEE
the structure of caffiene in coffee is similar to that of the nucleotide base of our DNA. so it actually blocks the DNA repair mechanism, and may lead to serious issues, such as cancer.
SO I do recommend everyone to think into it deeply ....and as the lecturer was saying you may know the facts but its actually up to you to actually take good care of yourself...
BTW cancer may be chronic, meaning that it may take a few years maybe 20 yrs or more to manifest itself.
And about starbucks well i prefer san francisco to it and i do not drink coffee only chocolate frappies, try it every1! :)
and by the way, thinking that its "a personal choice" to boycot or not, is selfish...
there is a branch in addoun and front of Radisson sas hotel , Believe it or not ,Cups&Kilo's coffe tats way better then starbucks.
Give it a try.
So please get off your high horse before going on with your R-rated comments.
if it makes you feel better to go through life believing you are a worthless and hapless human being who must indulge her every whim and desire at any cost to anyone, then do so but please i beg you do not fucking turn your indulgence and indifference and apathy into some noble act to beat us with.
The CEO of Starbucks continues to support the Israeli Army and he's really not ashamed of it or anything.
Person #2: "Since Founder and CEO of Starbucks makes his money from Starbucks profits and he is a proud supporter of Israel, I will not give my money to Starbucks."
Person #1 burned 100 calories since his argument required impressive acrobatics.
Person #2 burned 10 calories since it does not require a rocket scientist to arrive to his conclusion.
Bottomline, if anyone likes Starbucks that's their personal decision BUT FOR CHRISSAKE STOP FUCKING TRYING TO RATIONALIZE YOUR SICKNESS BY MOCKING OUR CHOICES TO BOYCOTT THE SUPPORTER OF BABY KILLERS. IF YOU CHOSE TO SHOVE YOUR SICKNESS DOWN OUR THROATS, BE READY FOR THE PUKE.
Ali al hasani, what are cups and kilos? jordanian mark? i know them and tasted their coffee, nothing special, i think i will just stick to home made tea
Hey, did you know that they are now selling it in grocery stores? You can get it and brew it at home. Great for coffeeholics like me who have to burn the midnight oil working on my thesis